Re: Guardian state - identity cards

2001-10-02 Thread Chris Burford
Yesterday a government minister, Jeff Rooker, indicated at a fringe meeting that the government had no interest in introducting identity cards. I in fact generally agree with the arguments of Peter Preston. In a radically democratic and humane society our identities should not need to be

Guardian state - identity cards

2001-10-02 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Chris, Yesterday a government minister, Jeff Rooker, indicated at a fringe meeting that the government had no interest in introducting identity cards. I in fact generally agree with the arguments of Peter Preston. In a radically democratic and humane society our identities should

Re: Guardian state - identity cards

2001-10-02 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Rob Schaap writes, ... we should remember that we do not in fact live in villages, and that computer records and smartcard IDs are not the mode of identification that held at that time. People you don't know, over whom you have no reciprocal knowledge-power, no

Re: Guardian state - identity cards

2001-10-02 Thread Jim Devine
At 06:09 PM 10/02/2001 +, you wrote: . It was also very hard (Martin Guerre aside) to pretend to be someone else - nowadays, anything that depends on computers and cards can be wrong or forged, and difficult to find, check, disprove and correct. Recently, there's been a rash of identity

Guardian state

2001-10-01 Thread Michael Keaney
The liberal Guardian once again leads the way in New Labour's modernisation of Britain. Peter Preston was editor of the Guardian from 1975-95. = The case for ID cards is now overwhelming We have so many bits of plastic already - one more won't hurt Peter Preston Monday October 1, 2001 The

Re: Guardian state

2001-10-01 Thread Jim Devine
Peter Preston wrote: So, as a white-faced world carries on waiting, what will all good civil libertarians be doing this week? Packing their bags and heading for Brighton to demonstrate against David Blunkett's sudden passion for national identity cards? Perhaps. But let's do logistics first.