-From: Devine, James
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:21
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RE: Lerner and a split in San Francisco demo
Max asked
me why I didn't know about this stuff... it's because I'm not an lbo-talker.
Who has the time
(Doyle) Your position I am critical (mildly and friendly) of centered upon theboring quality of what the left puts out. So let's talk about that. Whatcan we say? For example you use the word, boring, which is an emotionalresponse on your part. I take that seriously in terms of understanding
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
The underlying issue in the Lerner/ANSWER flap is whether
the anti-war movement will be steered towards or away from
support for a right of return for Palestinians, thereby
denying the legitimacy of the Jewish state.
Max, this is hardly a central issue to the peace movement
hey Jim didja hear the Beatles broke up.
mbs
I missed something. Why was Michael Lerner banned from the demo? who did
it?
Jim
He wasn't banned, he was initially not invited. The people who were
representing him at the meeting were asked if they had any
objections; they didn't. A week later Lerner charged that he was
banned because ANSWER is anti-semitic.
I believe that he was finally given fifteen minutes to speak:
Greetings Economists,
JKS responds,
I said nothing whatsoever about speakers at mass
rallies, a topic I was not addressing. As matter of
fact I do think speakersa t mass demos are boring, but
since the right doesn't hold mass rallies, by and
large, there's no contrast class to compare right wing
You haven't explored these areas, and instead have concentrated in alack of talent on the left for shining in puerile broadcast television.That games aren't boring and why isn't on your agenda for this discussion offeeling coming out of the left? Am I being harsh toward you? I respect youenough to
*In one of the articles I saw on-line, David Corn refers to him as _the_
progressive Jew (his emphasis). C'mon! Isn't Noam Chomsky Jewish? aren't
there lots of progressive Jews out there?
Jim Devine
It's a little strong but not out to lunch.
There are lots of progressives who happen to be
Max and others on the list have written at length about Lerner on the LBO.
Jim, who like me saw the turd operating in Berkeley, probably knows the
problems with Lerner.
I would much rather we learn about how to stop the war than to dwell on
personalities who are disrupting the anti-war movement.
Greetings Economists,
Max replies to Jim Devine,
Lots of people have cited stories that reflect badly
on his personal habits and organizational style. But
the fact remains that he has put something real
together, and most of us are just posting to the
Internet.
Doyle
Joanna says he got his
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