Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Shane Mage
I guess I must be in the loyal opposition too. I want to understand Bin Laden the better to destroy him. I don't believe anyone here regards him as a freedom fighter. In fact, I don't think bin Laden and his gang regard themselves as freedom fighters Don't get me wrong. In my opinion Bin

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread andie nachgeborenen
--- Doyle Saylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Economists, JKS writes in a thread that is drawing all and asunder their opinion, JKS I guess I must be in the loyal opposition too. Doyle, Not me. I don't want to continue capitalism, so I'm not loyal to their wind. Don't be

Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doug Henwood
andie nachgeborenen wrote: Look at how the Factor talks to him, using his title, saying, You're smarter than I am., etc. In O'Reilly-land that can be an insult. Being dumb, like W, is a sign of populism. (Of course, O'Reilly did get a masters at the Kennedy School, so he's not innocent of

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, JKS responds about my ironing habits, JKS, Don't be irony-impaired, Doyle. Doyle, ;-) JKS Fish would eat you and your milieu for an appetizer. Your bet's idle, though, because he wouldn't consider you worth him time. Anyone who is familiar with his writing and speaking

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Steven McGraw
At 01:22 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: andie nachgeborenen wrote: Look at how the Factor talks to him, using his title, saying, You're smarter than I am., etc. In O'Reilly-land that can be an insult. Being dumb, like W, is a sign of populism. (Of course, O'Reilly did get a masters at the

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Doug Henwood
Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard Zinn? Doug

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Michael Perelman
Are we really talking about views of the world or about communication styles of propagandists? On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 05:13:50PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-08 Thread Steven McGraw
At 05:13 PM 2/8/2003 -0500, you wrote: Steven McGraw wrote: Plenty of public intellectuals have an equally uncomplicated view of the world Like who? Fred Barnes? Howard Zinn? Doug In this case I'm thinking mostly of mainstream-to-liberal commentators. Don't wanna name too many names in case

Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I know one isn't supposed to take any pleasure in evil people; I'm in an unsuccessful rebellion against my Catholic past, and sometimes I forget this point. == Somebody break out the Bushmill's and call the

Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Kendall Clark
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:55:45PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: I hate to deploy Fitzgerald's cliche once again, but I guess it became a cliche because there are so many illustrations of the principle: The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at

Re: Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Kendall Clark wrote: I think that it's O'Reilly who has a hard time squaring internal contradiction, however. He can't handle it when leftists are smart articulate, like Glick was. We were watching a few weeks ago when a very sharp immigration lawyer was giving him a hard time for his

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Kendall Clark
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:09:01PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: Kendall Clark wrote: He can't handle it when leftists are smart articulate, like Glick was. I thought Amiri Baraka cleaned his clock too, even with the sorta dumb bit about George Bush knew it was gonna happen. If Baraka's

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Joel Blau
My guess is that he let Fish go on because there is submissiveness and a profound sense of inadequacy mixed with his fake populism toward the left and cultural elites. Joel Blau Doug Henwood wrote: Kendall Clark wrote: I think that it's O'Reilly who has a hard time squaring internal

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Kendall Clark wrote: Of course, Stanley Fish walked all over him and he didn't cut him off. I wonder why he got away with it? I didn't see this. Transcript? (I would hypothesize that O'Reilly's readiness to cut people off is subject-matter dependent, to some degree. He seems genuinely

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Carrol Cox
Joel Blau wrote: My guess is that he let Fish go on because there is submissiveness and a profound sense of inadequacy mixed with his fake populism toward the left and cultural elites. Joel Blau And perhaps because they are twins under the skin?? :-) I've never heard Fish speak, but

Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Michael Perelman
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Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread andie nachgeborenen
ECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:07 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [PEN-L:34463] RE: a slip of the Fox noose It's really irritating how O'Reilly keeps on calling Fish "Dean" (and not "Dean Fish"). But more importantly, I think that the reason why he let Fish "

RE: Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose

2003-02-07 Thread Marens, Richard S.
] Re: RE: RE: a slip of the Fox noose I guess I must be in the loyal opposition too. I want to understand Bin Laden the better to destroy him. I don't believe anyone here regards him as a freedom fighter. In fact, I don't think bin Laden and his gang regard themselvesa s freedom fighters. Holy