The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Charles Brown




TIME.com: The End Of Management? -- Jul. 12, 2004 http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1101040712-660965,00.html
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Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Tom Walker
I love it! Total Information Awareness meets ParEcon. Robin Hanson,  may I
introduce you to Robin Hahnel...

Charles Brown wrote,

 TIME.com: The End Of Management? -- Jul. 12, 2004

http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1101040712-660965,00.html

Tom Walker
604 255 4812


Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Daniel Davies
this is such crap.  Note that the closer than the official forecast 75% of
the time number shows up twice in different contexts.  Note also that you
would do better than the official forecast 50% of the time by simply
flipping a coin, so 75% seems a pretty low bar (if your playing a coin
flipping game, heads versus tails, the side that's ahead after three flips
will be the eventual winner 75% of the time).  And finally note that
problems like forecasting chip sales would have to be judged against a very
complicated and asymmetric loss function; underestimates are much less
harmful than overestimates.

Hanson put out a press release last year saying that the revised Policy
Analysis Market would be up and trading by March 2004.  I emailed him
offering to bet $500 that it wouldn't, but I never got a reply.

dd

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I love it! Total Information Awareness meets ParEcon. Robin Hanson,  may I
introduce you to Robin Hahnel...

Charles Brown wrote,

 TIME.com: The End Of Management? -- Jul. 12, 2004

http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1101040712-660965,00.html

Tom Walker
604 255 4812


Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Waistline2



 


In a message dated 7/14/2004 2:21:54 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  TIME.com: The End Of Management? -- Jul. 12, 2004 
  http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1101040712-660965,00.html



The article states: 

The end of management just might look something like this. 
You show up for work, boot up your computer and log onto your company's Intranet 
to make a few trades before getting down to work. You see how your stocks did 
the day before and then execute a few new orders. You think your company should 
step up production next month, and you trade on that thought.


Comment 

Industrial management and the industrial bureaucracy that 
permeates society is undergoing revolution as we pass deeper into the post 
industrial era. Industrial management and the industrial bureaucracy are not two 
separate categories of the economy or forms of organization of the industrial 
infrastructure and superstructure but interpenetrate one another. 

The above writer conceives the revolution in the technological 
regime and its material impact on who people are organized to utilize the 
material power of production from the standpoint of the interaction of the 
individual with financial - capital, markets. 

The layers of Industrial management and the industrial 
bureaucracy . . . which were once graphically illustrated by the General 
Motors building in Detroit (with its famous 14 floors of industrial management) 
and the management style of Alfred Sloan has gone the way of all flesh. 


Managing the flow of labor and resources through financial 
markets is a vision limited to the bourgeois property relations in my opinion. 
Tracking the moment of labor and resources through the prism of gambling in the 
market for financial reward is the vision of the bourgeoisie for post industrial 
society. This gambling in the financial market is not a thing in itself . . . 
non is compensation for excellence a bad word. 

Rather the larger question is who the new technology, labor 
and resources are to be deployed and on whose behalf as a property relations. 


Management as administration has no end . . . in human history 
. . . but management as administration is profoundly riveted to a distinct stage 
of development of the productivity forces . . . the system of communications and 
distributionand the property relations within. 

Here is what is missing. 

Yes, . . . the management system is undergoing revolutionary 
change and this changes expresses revolution in the mode of production on which 
sits the previous and pre existing management system. The previous and 
preexisting management system is part of the industrial mode of production . . . 
which seems not to be understood. 

I have some practical experience with this . . . Especially 
when the auto industry in American attempted to assimilate the advance 
production and management system of Japan . . . the Just In Time system and its 
corresponding management structure. 

This is not an abstract question but has profound theory 
implications that cannot be answered on the basis of ideology and democratic 
proclamations and protestations. 


Melvin P. 


Re: The End Of Management?

2004-07-14 Thread Tom Walker
Daniel Davies wrote,

Hanson put out a press release last year saying that the revised Policy
Analysis Market would be up and trading by March 2004.  I emailed him
offering to bet $500 that it wouldn't, but I never got a reply.

However, had he accepted your wager, Daniel, he would have paid up:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg07948.html


Tom Walker
604 255 4812