Justin wrote:
[clip] So, we're fucked, right, Carrol?
Not completely so anyhow when I can have that much fun writing a post
off the top of my head. :-)
A whole series of 19th c. poems (beginning with Keats's Nightingale Ode)
may be crudely paraphrased thusly:
The world is all fucked up.
But
The article forwarded by Ulhas states:
Food, medicines, inputs and fuel can be
accessed in adequate volumes only with foreign exchange, making the
effort at restoring the health of a devastated economy and protecting the
quality of life of its citizens dependent on dollar earnings. Fidel
The Economic Times
Thursday, July 22, 2004
Let the pleasant trade winds blow
JOSEPH E STIGLITZ
In the year since the breakdown of the trade talks in
Cancun, sentiment has
increasingly grown in the developing world that no
agreement is better than
a bad agreement. But what would a good
Carrol wrote:
I think Yoshie has gotten a bit too wrapped up in the Greens (in the
2004 election). We cannot know the form that socialist activity will
take in the future, but we can be fairly certain that it will not be
electoral and will involve mass resistance to imperialist policies.
Arguments
PEN-L:
Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours of Descent: U.S.
Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global Austerity by Robert Pollin
that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on Indian farmers.
Seth Sandronsky
CC writes: it would be more
interesting and more relevant to the future to explore the forms of
commodity fetishism int he 21st century.
maybe, given the way that the presidential and other electoral contests have turned
into duopolistic or monopolistic marketing events, this is quite relevant.
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems to me that cell phones are at best a mixed
blessing. (I have
one, but I hate it: it rings when I'm driving, so I
either have to pull
over to talk or drive in a risky way. This morning it
interrupted a
good song by Townes Van Zandt.) They are
There are relatively few automobiles in Havana, but
when you do see them, they are either American cars
from the 1950s or Russian cars from the 1970s or
thereabouts. Public transportation includes regular
buses, camel buses, a few taxi cabs, bicycle
cabs...and walking. I'm sure that's a good
Lou wrote:
Is now available at:
http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2004/pdf/hdr04_HDI.pdf
It is *highly* interesting that for the first time ever Cuba has
made it into the High human development grouping that includes the
G-8 nations, etc.
Does that mean that Cuba's economy is more marketized and
--- Anthony D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is hard to estimate but the numbers that float
around, are 3-4% of
the population, which is not a small number by any
means. English has
been both a uniting factor (in a national sense) but
also one that sets
the rural-urban and class divide more
The Times of India
THURSDAY, JULY 22, 2004
Iran will have nuke capacity by '07: Israel
AFP
JERUSALEM: Israeli intelligence chiefs told Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon's
security cabinet in a joint assessment on Wednesday
that Iran will have a
nuclear weapons capacity by 2007, public radio
In a message dated 7/23/2004 6:35:11 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A per unit drop of labor input of 40% in 30 years is running
at an annual improvement factor of more than 10% and what is built into the
union contract is an annual improvement factor of 3%
Yoshie wrote:
Unions as organized entities (as opposed to factions of
activists in them) will be *the last* to join any third-party
movement on the left that has an actual potential to grow powerful
(that is, if they will ever join any such thing en masse at all --
very improbable), for most
Seth Sandronsky wrote:
Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours
of Descent: U.S.
Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global
Austerity by Robert Pollin
that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on
Indian farmers.
India doesn't owe any money to the IMF. How IMF
Chris D writes:
Russia practically has a full-fledged cult of the
mobile phone. About half the population has one (as
opposed to about 5% in 1998). It's a social symbol
that says you're part of the middle class, even if you
really aren't. People practically organize their lives
around those
As far as I can tell, no; Cuba is still hanging round $15 per head per day.
It looks like they're just doing more with less development-wise.
dd
-Original Message-
Does that mean that Cuba's economy is more marketized and monetized
than before -- hence a higher GDP per capita and a
Why are they localized?
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901
-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulhas
Joglekar
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004
Devine, James wrote:
CC writes: it would be more
interesting and more relevant to the future to explore the forms of
commodity fetishism int he 21st century.
maybe, given the way that the presidential and other electoral contests have turned
into duopolistic or monopolistic marketing
didn't Bob write of the effects of neo-liberal policies in India, rather than neo-lib
policies pushed by the IMF?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
From: PEN-L list on behalf of Ulhas Joglekar
Sent: Sat 7/24/2004 10:30 AM
To:
From: http://www.epw.org.in
EPW Commentary July 10, 2004
Is Rural Economy Breaking Down?
Farmers' Suicides in Andhra Pradesh
Farmers' suicides represent only the tip of the iceberg. To attribute
the rural crisis entirely to poverty and drought would be an
Why do these numbers represent fizzle? Let say that 9% of the electorate
has seen the film, as in the sample. Let's say 18% of those who've seen the
film are more likely to vote against Bush as a result, as reported in the
sample. Multiplying, we find that 1.6% of the electorate are more likely to
Don't campaigns often pay $5 or $10 per vote?
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:10:08PM -0400, Robert Naiman wrote:
Why do these numbers represent fizzle? Let say that 9% of the electorate
has seen the film, as in the sample. Let's say 18% of those who've seen the
film are more likely to vote
Perelman, Michael wrote:
Farmers' suicides:
Why are they localized?
Failure of monsoons, farmers' indebtness, shift to the
cash crops etc. are among the principal factors.
See interview of CPIM Secretary, B.V. Raghavalu for
Andhra Pradesh (Pop. about 80 million)for details in
Fronline, 19
Yes, but why are they localized in only 1 state? Aren't these problems more
widespread?
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 08:20:40PM +0100, Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
Perelman, Michael wrote:
Farmers' suicides:
Why are they localized?
Failure of monsoons, farmers' indebtness, shift to the
cash crops
Michael Perelman wrote:
Yes, but why are they localized in only 1 state?
Aren't these problems more widespread?
I have not studied the pattern of rainfall region by
region. Distribution of monsoon varies from region to
region and within each region its timing during
June-September monsoon
Diane Monaco wrote:
There are three -- actually four if you include the
euro that is now
accepted at a few tourist locations in Havana --
currencies used in Cuba:
the Cuban peso, the convertible peso (equivalent to
the dollar), and
dollars. All three of these currencies circulate
Marvin Gandall wrote:
Finally, it seems Carrol has gone anarchist on us:
:-) Anarchism is so completely dead that one really need not try
particularly hard to distinguish oneself from it.
In 1875 after the defeat of the Paris Commune it would not have been
possible to predict the political
[was: something about Thomas Frank]
cc writes:Now I leaped a few stages there, and left productive and
unproductive undefined. Those steps ought to be filled in -- BUT NOT
BY TRYING TO MAKE _ECONOMIC_ SENSE. As soon as you try to prove or
disprove this as a statement about technical economics you
In a message dated 7/24/2004 1:04:02 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Or to put it another way, to reject Marx's distinction between
productive and unproductive labor (by placing on it the burden of practical
economics or political economy) you will completely lose the
Ulhas and Jim,
My bad. I should have written neoliberal, not IMF, policies in India.
Seth
Re: Subject: Re: Suicides, Military and Economic
by Ulhas Joglekar
24 July 2004
Seth Sandronsky wrote:
Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours
of Descent: U.S.
Economic Fractures and the
Louis had expressed some belief that official statistics may have biases
and there has been an ongoing discussion of the Human Development
Index. So, I thought I should look up the numbers for the impact of the
PPP effect alone.
For the 130 or so countries listed as Low and Middle Income the
NY Times, July 24, 2004
Oil, Venezuela's Lifeblood, Is Now Its Social Currency, Too
By JUAN FORERO
CARACAS, Venezuela - Seventeen months after an antigovernment strike
crippled production, Venezuela's state oil company, Petróleos de
Venezuela, has made what analysts call a Herculean return.
Speaking of unproductive labour, I just posted to another mailing list --
swt, shorter worktime list -- a draft essay about a seminal discussion of
unproductive labour, fictitious capital, inconvertible paper money and
superfluous things. It's an introductory essay to Charles Wentworth Dilke's
Tom deserves a note of thanks for posting this valuable literature. Going to the
site, I found that you can also find a pin-up of Tom.
http://www.worklessparty.org/tomwalker.shtml
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail
Indeed, it has been a little noticed trend that today most of the
World Bank's 'public relations' type documents, most human
development related documents, and most documents arguing for the
success of the neo-liberal project use PPP *and only* PPP. Even
where there findings would be utterly
Columbia, reports the Financial Times of
07-19-04 has "put itself back on the oil maps" due to "improved security" and
revised tax laws. The Clinton-era military aid, along with the
assassination of workers' leaders, high prices, and reduced taxes have
brought ExxonMobil, Burlington
Yoshie, you are not the only one that has been pestering Paul.
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA
95929
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From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yoshie
Furuhashi
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:33 PM
To: [EMAIL
sartesian wrote:
Columbia, reports the Financial Times of 07-19-04 has put itself back
on the oil maps due to improved security and revised tax laws.
I think hiring Jeffrey Sachs and Joseph Stiglitz might have helped as well.
--
Marxism list: www.marxmail.org
I didn't know Uribe hired Sachs and Stiglitz.
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Does any of this ring a bell?
sartesian wrote:
Columbia, reports the Financial Times of 07-19-04
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