Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote: The best way to highlight unequal/unjust ballot access procedures is to actually run a campaign that runs afoul of them -- then, there is a practical struggle. Who cares if ballot access procedures are unequal and unjust if there is no candidate

Re: Economics and law

2004-08-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 9:32 PM -0700 8/10/04, David B. Shemano wrote: Even taking your example into consideration, let's imagine a lack of economic coercion. Actually, I can't imagine it. In any event, let's assume that the law requires every car have the safety of a Lexus and everybody can afford a Lexus. Fine.

Let the Empire vote, eh?

2004-08-11 Thread Marvin Gandall
An apparently only half tongue-in-cheek argument in yesterday's Globe and Mail for why Canadians and others should be allowed to vote for the US President. The Kerry Democrats, you would think, would have a real interest in taking the issue a step further. Rather than lamely trailing after Bush in

Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 3:03 AM At 1:03 AM -0400 8/11/04, Michael Hoover wrote: of course, my point was that nader people have not - and will not - raise equal protection matter (although they'll - no doubt, and rightly so - complain about being exluded from prez debates)... Have you

John Forbes Kerry and the war on Iraq

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
(This is such a great column that I am posting it unclipped.) NY Observer, August 11, 2004|9:42 AM On Trumans Train, Kerry Comes Down On WarHes For It by Robert Sam Anson Its the war, stupid. Pretty much everybody seems to get that. Delegates to the Democratic National Convention sure did: They

Economics and law

2004-08-11 Thread Charles Brown
by David B. Shemano Why is your personal opinion relevant? I mean, I am sure I can find somebody (Melvin P.?) who apparently highly values going 100. Therefore, your opinion is cancelled out. Now what do we do? ^ CB: Well, it's like why vote ? Your vote is only one in millions. How can

Fox to Be Tested for Rabies

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Headline from the Wash. Post online. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
(A frequent argument on behalf of Kerry is that he would have not invaded Iraq after 9/11. He might be an imperialist but is not a rash, adventuristic unilateralist. Guess what, folks. He is a rash, adventuristic unilateralist. He might not be a born-again Christian and might favor stem-cell

A nickel's worth of difference?

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, August 11, 2004 Bush v. Kerry? Not Even a Dime's Worth of Difference By ALEXANDER COCKBURN Kerry goes from bad to worse. Last week he dropped Saddam's non-existent WMDs as a campaign issue. He did this huge favor to Bush via his (Kerry's) foreign affairs spokesman, the insufferable

Nader press release on Kerry's Me-Too-ism

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Nader For President 2004 P.O. Box 18002 - Washington, DC 20036 - www.VoteNader.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE For Further Information: August 10, 2004 Kevin Zeese 202-265-4000 Nader: Is there no end to Kerry's Me-Too-ism with Bush on Iraq? Washington, D.C.: Independent Candidate Ralph Nader today

Re: back to PPP comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread Paul
[Sometimes my response has to be much delayed, sorry. I will also try to reply to others.] Michael Lebowitz writes: I have just received some comments from a former colleague on the questions posed about the use of PPP. They include his comments in a letter plus an attachment which I have copied

Re: back to PPP comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread Chris Doss
As a general question, do these income comparisons somehow factor in nonmonetary income, state-supplied benefits or similar perks? E.g., in the country in which my butt is parked, monetary incomes are generally relatively low, but most families own their own apartments and grow their own food in

Re: JEP Schleiffer

2004-08-11 Thread Paul
1) I, for one, deeply regret the loss of JEP. I don't think anyone can really maintain that the new version is more socially useful, especially compared to the way JEP was before the 'great turnover', when the AEA itself was less monolithic. It seems that within the AEA, there is now a

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lassen
From my standpoint the conversation concerning China gets loud because of the lack of concrete economic and political data. Then ideology parades as insight. Quite. If China's non agricultural workforce is between 350 and 400 million . . . with roughly 100 million in the NON STATE SECTOR . . .

Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM At 9:20 PM -0400 8/10/04, Michael Hoover wrote: maybe post header should have read: anybody but kerry and cobb, in any event, no need to limit oneself to left petit-bourgeois deviationism of nader, choose between several real-live socialists (commies even)

Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 8:32 AM many technical/procedural/justice problems arise from 1787 constitutional language assigning each state authority to determine times, places, manner of holding elections... meant to note in above portion of earlier point that congress may at any time by law

Re: PPP comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread Paul
On 8/5/2004 Sam Pawlett wrote: One thing I've never understood about PPP, is it an attempt to measure -what it is like living in a poor country- or is the idea more modest as the above paragraph suggests trying to demonstrate what the market equivalent amount of currency buys in a given country?

Re: re PPP comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread Paul
On 8/7/2004 Mike Lebowitz wrote: I don't know anything myself about the way the PPP is constructed or the neoclassical assumptions that Paul proposed were used. Intuitively, though, it makes real sense to select the PPP measure (ie., something that takes into account prices) over one using market

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Marvin Gandall
Louis Proyect wrote: (A frequent argument on behalf of Kerry is that he would have not invaded Iraq after 9/11. He might be an imperialist but is not a rash, adventuristic unilateralist. Guess what, folks. He is a rash, adventuristic unilateralist. He might not be a born-again Christian and

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Marvin Gandall wrote: I don't attach much credibility to what opportunistic politicians say in election campaigns -- particularly in Kerry's case, where he perceives his electoral fortunes, rightly or wrongly, to be dependent on adaptation to a segment of the voting population infected with a high

Re: back to PPP comparisons\Chris' question

2004-08-11 Thread Paul
Chris wrote As a general question, do these income comparisons somehow factor in nonmonetary income, state-supplied benefits or similar perks? E.g., in the country in which my butt is parked, monetary incomes are generally relatively low, but most families own their own apartments and grow their

Act now to end this war occupation: Voices in the Wilderness

2004-08-11 Thread Fred Feldman
Act Now to End This War Occupation Hands Off Najaf By VOICES IN THE WILDERNESS Our country's military now declares preparations to attack the Shrine of Ali in the city of Najaf in Iraq. Our country stands on the precipice of declaring war on Islam. An attack on the Shrine of Ali is an attack on

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 2:27 PM Marvin Gandall wrote: I don't attach much credibility to what opportunistic politicians say in election campaigns -- particularly in Kerry's case, where he perceives his electoral fortunes, rightly or wrongly, to be dependent on adaptation to a segment of

Economics and law

2004-08-11 Thread Charles Brown
Coincidently, here a news story today. Charles ^ Road deaths fall to new low Wednesday, August 11, 2004 Image http://www.detnews.com/pix/2004/08/11/0asec/081104-p1-nhtsa-fatality-ch.jpg http://www.detnews.com/pix/folios/dot.gif Road deaths

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/11/2004 12:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, your employment numbers are fantastically off. Here's a report (2002) from China's State Council: Reply Thanks for the data. Actually . . . they are not my figures . . . and perhaps should not

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/11/2004 12:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the perspective of living labor, what is the difference betweenstate and non-state management if their common goal is the ruthlessexpansion of value? Comment The property relations that determines

Iraq Veterans Against the War

2004-08-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
(A new group of veterans just got organized: Iraq Veterans Against the War. Great! On the other hand, Marine Lance Cpl. Abdul Henderson is in trouble because of his appearance in his service dress Alpha uniform in Fahrenheit 9/11. Let's support him.):

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
The foreign policy difference between Bush Kerry would probably be that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti -- maybe Venezuela, but faced would public pressure might react like Bush, or even worse in order to prove that he is STRONG. -- Michael Perelman Economics

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: The foreign policy difference between Bush Kerry would probably be that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti Clinton co-opted Aristide; Bush overthrew him. The first sucks but the second is worse. Doug

Re: Greens For Nader Update: Rigged Convention Divides Green Party (Sign and Forward This)

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
KPFA had a debate between Cobb Camejo regarding the charge of the rigged convention. It did not sound nearly as clear cut as it was presented here. I was once on a jury panel for Camejo, but was kicked off left with a clenched fist salute. I liked what he did when I was at Berkeley, but in

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Exactly. On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 04:10:37PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote: Michael Perelman wrote: The foreign policy difference between Bush Kerry would probably be that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti Clinton co-opted Aristide; Bush overthrew him. The first

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Shane Mage
Michael Perelman writes: The foreign policy difference between Bush Kerry would probably be that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti -- maybe Venezuela, but faced with public pressure might react like Bush, or even worse in order to prove that he is STRONG. public

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless my base question was what did Fidel say that qualified as being horrified by China. He probably has never criticized China's capitalist transformation publicly since China has been fairly generous with Cuba economically. The article I forwarded quotes

Re: Kerry would have gone to war

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Shane is also correct in interpreting my meaning. On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 04:18:25PM -0400, Shane Mage wrote: Michael Perelman writes: The foreign policy difference between Bush Kerry would probably be that Kerry would be less likely to instigate crises, such as Haiti -- maybe Venezuela,

Over 6, 000 US wounded

2004-08-11 Thread ken hanly
Note that the post talks of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan both as the war on terror!! At least Iraq is an occupation after an illegal invasion and Afghanistan also involved the overthrow of a government and consequent occupation but with more international junior imperialists than in Iraq at

Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/10/04 11:44 PM Only Nader/Camejo represented a potential to threaten the Democratic Party's hegemony over the left side of the political spectrum by taking 2-7% of the votes, according to the polls http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/08/nader-2004-nader-2000.html -- hence the

CIA Venezuela

2004-08-11 Thread Robert Naiman
This UPI/El Mundo story looked a little wild to me at first, but when I saw that Chilean officials denied that Spencer was in Chile, I thought there might be something to it. 15) UPI Hears ... United Press International August 10, 2004 Charges of CIA meddling into other country's affairs has

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/11/2004 3:20:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevertheless my base question was what did Fidel say that qualified as being horrified by China. He probably has never criticized China's capitalist transformation publicly since

libertarian journal watch project

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
http://www.econjournalwatch.org/main/index.php This would be an excellent project to replicate from the left. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Fidel Castro horrified by China

2004-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lassen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My resistance is to an ideological curve in our history that bounces from crying crocodile tears over the alleged famine killing perhaps as many as 40 million people and all kinds of vilification of the revolution in China and the on going revolutionary process. Which I

lesser evil question

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Perelman
If Kerry keeps shifting right, maybe we will have to vote for Bush as the lesser evil? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: lesser evil question

2004-08-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael Perelman wrote: If Kerry keeps shifting right, maybe we will have to vote for Bush as the lesser evil? Michael, I realize you are being witty but the differences between Bush and Kerry are substantial. They range over taxation, stem cell research, AIDS funding, etc. They also agree

Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Re: ABK Comrades! on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were apparently working to help him get on ballot, You might want to verify your source. Here's what Nader has to say about it... Ralph Nader Responds to Terry McAuliffe False Statements on Republican

on country comparisons

2004-08-11 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Paul, I've forwarded your earlier note commenting on my former colleague's reply to him; I'll post his answer if/when I get it. Paul wrote: 11 August 2004 17:56 UTC On 8/7/2004 Mike Lebowitz wrote: I don't know anything myself about the way the PPP is constructed or the neoclassical

Re: ABK Comrades!

2004-08-11 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/04 9:58 PM on other hand, nader's folks are pretty disingenuous re. reps who were apparently working to help him get on ballot, You might want to verify your source. (as in Michigan where we do not need any signatures thanks to the Reform Party endorsement). above was

Re: JEP Schleiffer

2004-08-11 Thread michael
Paul deserves criticism for his summary of Shleifer -- he is far too gentle. Shliefer insists that market-induced competition does not create undesirable consequences. It is non-market corruption that is bad. And he is considered one of the bright lights of economics. Paul wrote: 2) Latest AEA/AER