Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
Robert Naiman wrote: From Capitol Hill Blue Bush Leagues Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior By TERESA HAMPTON Editor, Capitol Hill Blue Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. This sort of thing should be discouraged. Powerful would simply not not appear in an honest account as a modifier of anti-depressant drugs. I've _never_ seen that adjective in straightforward discussion of anti-depressants, and the only excuse for it hear is that the writer is trying to put across bullshit. What in the hell would a weak anti-depressant drug be? Carrol
Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
Joyful gospel songs? Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior Robert Naiman wrote: From Capitol Hill Blue Bush Leagues Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior By TERESA HAMPTON Editor, Capitol Hill Blue Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. This sort of thing should be discouraged. Powerful would simply not not appear in an honest account as a modifier of anti-depressant drugs. I've _never_ seen that adjective in straightforward discussion of anti-depressants, and the only excuse for it hear is that the writer is trying to put across bullshit. What in the hell would a weak anti-depressant drug be? Carrol
Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
Carrol Cox wrote: What in the hell would a weak anti-depressant drug be? White wine spritzers? Doug
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ken hanly wrote: Joyful gospel songs? :-) Now that is really depressing. As a friend of mine in the local Depressive Support Group once observed, Just because you're crazy doesn't mean you're not also a jerk! There is no difficulty in demonstrating that Bush and his friends are one large bunch of thugs war criminals. There is no need for Capital Blue's baiting of the mentally ill! Carrol
Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
On US NPR's "Day to Day" today, MS SLATE's Timothy Noah reported that Fidel Castro talked about this ina recent speech, citing some of the same sources. (Noah's point, however, was that he respected Bush more than he respected Castro and that he wished that the latter hadn't cited one of his SLATE articles.) Frankly, I don't think it matters if the POTUS is stark raving loony or not. He's basically a figure-head, representing a coalition of powerful forces. His handlers will keep him in line. stark raving, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine From: Robert NaimanSent: Wed 8/4/2004 4:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [PEN-L] Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior From Capitol Hill Blue Bush Leagues Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior By TERESA HAMPTON Editor, Capitol Hill Blue Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President's mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately. "It's a double-edged sword," says one aide. "We can't have him flying off the handle at the slightest provocation but we also need a President who is alert mentally." Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay. "Keep those motherfuckers away from me," he screamed at an aide backstage. "If you can't, I'll find someone who can." Bush's mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President's wide mood swings and obscene outbursts. Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a "paranoid meglomaniac" and "untreated alcoholic" whose "lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions and pumping his hand gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad" showcase Bush's instabilities. "I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed," Dr. Frank said. "He fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated." Dr. Frank's conclusions have been praised by other prominent psychiatrists, including Dr. James Grotstein, Professor at UCLA Medical Center, and Dr. Irvin Yalom, MD, Professor Emeritus at Stanford University Medical School. The doctors also worry about the wisdom of giving powerful anti-depressant drugs to a person with a history of chemical dependency. Bush is an admitted alcoholic, although he never sought treatment in a formal program, and stories about his cocaine use as a younger man haunted his campaigns for Texas governor and his first campaign for President. "President Bush is an untreated alcoholic with paranoid and megalomaniac tendencies," Dr. Frank adds. The White House did not return phone calls seeking comment on this article. Although the exact drugs Bush takes to control his depression and behavior are not known, White House sources say they are "powerful medications" designed to bring his erratic actions under control. While Col. Tubb regularly releases a synopsis of the President's annual physical, details of the President's health and any drugs or treatment he may receive are not public record and are guarded zealously by the secretive cadre of aides that surround the President. Veteran White House watchers say the ability to control information about Bush's health, either physical or mental, is similar to Ronald Reagan's second term when aides managed to conceal the President's increasing memory lapses that signaled the onslaught of Alzheimer's Disease. It also brings back memories of Richard Nixon's final days when the soon-to-resign President wandered the halls and talked to portraits of former Presidents. The stories didn't emerge until after Nixon left office. One long-time GOP political consultant who - for obvious reasons - asked not to be identified said he is advising his Republican Congressional candidates to keep their distance from Bush. "We have to face the very real possibility that the President of the United States is loony
Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
What in the hell would a weak anti-depressant drug be? A Democrat for president? Dan
Re: Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior
Title: Message I actually think this kind of thing is wretched US bourgeois politics. The author of Bush on the Couch is a liberal psychiatrist who has never had Bush on the couch, never interviewed him, and has no deep and directknowledge of his mental state except for his disagreement with Bush's policies, which are pretty much all products of the needs and character of US imperialism today. Some of the stuff he regards as loony are policies fully backed by Sen. John Kerry, who is boring but not necessarily crazy. It is outrageous and, in my opinion, unethical for a psychiatrist to use his credentials and his pseudo-knowledge of Bush in this way. I see no evidence that Bush is paranoid, and if he is depressed, well, good. I hope he has a lot more than I know to be depressed about. This is not a first, of course. The same thing was done by Fact Magazine re the supposedlyclearly insane Barry Goldwater, when he won the Republican nomination as a right-winger in 1964. I remember this study of Goldwater's clear insanity for the classic comment that Goldwater's opposition to social security showed that he hated his mother. The idiot failed to notice that Goldwater's mother, if she was alive at the time, did not need social security. She was, like Goldwater, very rich. Later, as bourgeois politics moved further to the right, Goldwater became a middle of the road Republican. I guess he started taking his medication. The same kind of crap was used to drive Thomas Eagleton, McGovern's choice for vice president, out of the race in 1972 because he had suffered from a severe period of depression (so did Abraham Lincoln from time to time) and took medication (which was not available to Lincoln, who managed pretty well without it). Just to clarify any conflict of interest, I take 40mg. Lexapro daily, and think that -- on my medication or off -- I would make a better president than either Bush or Kerry (albeit for a different class or bloc of classes).So would many, many other people -- millions of them --who fight on the side of the oppressed and exploited, whatever their psychological what-nots. Fred Feldman -Original Message-From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devine, JamesSent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:59 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior On US NPR's "Day to Day" today, MS SLATE's Timothy Noah reported that Fidel Castro talked about this ina recent speech, citing some of the same sources. (Noah's point, however, was that he respected Bush more than he respected Castro and that he wished that the latter hadn't cited one of his SLATE articles.) Frankly, I don't think it matters if the POTUS is stark raving loony or not. He's basically a figure-head, representing a coalition of powerful forces. His handlers will keep him in line. stark raving, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine From: Robert NaimanSent: Wed 8/4/2004 4:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [PEN-L] Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior From Capitol Hill Blue Bush Leagues Bush Using Drugs to Control Depression, Erratic Behavior By TERESA HAMPTON Editor, Capitol Hill Blue Jul 28, 2004, 08:09 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4921.shtml President George W. Bush is taking powerful anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned. The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President's mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately. "It's a double-edged sword," says one aide. "We can't have him flying off the handle at the slightest provocation but we also need a President who is alert mentally." Tubb prescribed the anti-depressants after a clearly-upset Bush stormed off stage on July 8, refusing to answer reporters' questions about his relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth J. Lay. "Keep those motherfuckers away from me," he screamed at an aide backstage. "If you can't, I'll find someone who can." Bush's mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President's wide mood swings and obscene outbursts. Although GOP loyalists dismissed the reports an anti-Bush propaganda, the reports were later confirmed by prominent George Washington University psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank in his book Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President. Dr. Frank diagnosed the President as a "paranoid meglomaniac" and "untreated alcoholic" whose "lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from
