Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Stevan Little
On Dec 2, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: Let's start calling it the comment, in all of our testing modules, starting now. I give this a hearty shrug of indifference. Patches to Test::More welcome. This patches Test::More, Test::Simple, Test::Tutorial and Test::Builder to refer to 'na

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:40:09AM -0600, Andy Lester wrote: > I have a modest proposal. > > Stop calling the 2nd parm to ok() the "name". It's really a comment. > > ok( $is_happy, "Make sure the doodad is wingoed" ); > > That text string is not a "name" in the sense of naming a test, > esp

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Stevan Little
Andy, You have my vote for "comments". Calling it a test "name" have never made sense to me. Steve On Dec 2, 2004, at 11:40 AM, Andy Lester wrote: I have a modest proposal. Stop calling the 2nd parm to ok() the "name". It's really a comment. ok( $is_happy, "Make sure the doodad is wingoed" ); Th

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Stevan Little
Ovid, I second that complaint against JUnit. I recently have been doing some Java work and found it somewhat frustrating that when my test failed I had to read line numbers and hunt around, etc etc etc. I have gotten so used to my test comment not only pointing me right to the failed test, but

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Ovid
--- Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm ... I like this idea, though I confess that I don't like that > the comment is optional. > > There's no way to not make it optional. If you require that a > comment > be passed, then people will pass "comment" and leave it at that. Yes, I'm pain

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Andy Lester
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:14:03AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hmm ... I like this idea, though I confess that I don't like that the > comment is optional. There's no way to not make it optional. If you require that a comment be passed, then people will pass "comment" a

Re: Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread publiustemp-perlqa3
--- Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a modest proposal. > Stop calling the 2nd parm to ok() the "name". It's really a comment. > > ok( $is_happy, "Make sure the doodad is wingoed" ); Hmm ... I like this idea, though I confess that I don't like that the comment is optional. Wh

Test names vs. test comments

2004-12-02 Thread Andy Lester
I have a modest proposal. Stop calling the 2nd parm to ok() the "name". It's really a comment. ok( $is_happy, "Make sure the doodad is wingoed" ); That text string is not a "name" in the sense of naming a test, especially since it's entirely optional. You can't do any lookup to say "go fin