Selenium RC driver

2006-04-06 Thread Luke Closs
Greetings from Canada, Selenium Remote Control 0.71 was just released, and it's an awesome tool for automated functional web testing. Selenium RC is a java* jar file that launches a combination web server and proxy that allows you to use perl/python/ruby/java/c# scripts to launch and contr

Re: Module requirements (was: Module::Build and installing in non-standardlocations)

2006-04-06 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 06 April 2006 17:53, Adam Kennedy wrote: > UNIVERSAL::isa/can when called as a function does a very specific thing, > and one that is often misunderstood. ... and never correct, in the face of proxy objects, blessed objects, overloading, and ties. > And if you were able to distingui

Re: Module requirements (was: Module::Build and installing in non-standardlocations)

2006-04-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
I use 5.8.0 as minimum, but for unicode I think it should be 5.8.1 - but I am unsure. COuld you give a reason for why specifically 5.8.3? Actually, in consultation with Audrey and other $experts, Perl::MinimumVersion applies a 5.8.4 minimum whenever it sees any mention of Unicode. I believe

Re: Module requirements (was: Module::Build and installing in non-standardlocations)

2006-04-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
chromatic wrote: On Wednesday 05 April 2006 14:09, Adam Kennedy wrote: And now in return, we have new modules that changes the way EVERYBODY else's code works, and changes the meaning of that code instead, so Test::MockObject gets less spurious bug reports. You mischaracterize the situation.

Re: Generator for Modules-Installing Makefiles

2006-04-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 06 April 2006 22:34, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Wow, what great timing :) > > To add to your use case, on the project I'm currently working on, we > have 5 CPAN-style dists, probably 10 by the time we are done, but they > all need to be installed in a particular order. > > Due to the peculia

Re: Generator for Modules-Installing Makefiles

2006-04-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
Wow, what great timing :) To add to your use case, on the project I'm currently working on, we have 5 CPAN-style dists, probably 10 by the time we are done, but they all need to be installed in a particular order. Due to the peculiarities of the situation, doing a CPAN::Inject style setup is

Re: Module requirements

2006-04-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
I suspect that many of these are API driven. Programming should be fun and using an API that doesn't "fit" isn't fun. As a result people go write their own stuff that they feel is easier/faster to use. This is the flip side of impatience and hubris. E.g. CPAN search found 510 "Simple", 8

Generator for Modules-Installing Makefiles

2006-04-06 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! As part of developing Test::Run, I maintain several CPAN modules and install them to a directory under my home-dir. Now, until today what I did was write a bash function to run the installation commands ("perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=$FOO", "make", "make test", make install", or the Module::

Re: Module requirements

2006-04-06 Thread Tels
Moin, On Thursday 06 April 2006 14:59, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-06 13:45]: > >> This underlying behavior is one of my biggest pet peeves with > >> the perl community. Too many people want to go out and write > >> their own version of modules instead of cont

Re: Module requirements

2006-04-06 Thread Tels
Moin, On Thursday 06 April 2006 13:42, David Golden wrote: > Randy W. Sims wrote: [snip a lot of sensible words] > I suspect that many of these are API driven. Programming should be fun > and using an API that doesn't "fit" isn't fun. As a result people go > write their own stuff that they fe

Re: Module requirements

2006-04-06 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-04-06 13:45]: >> This underlying behavior is one of my biggest pet peeves with >> the perl community. Too many people want to go out and write >> their own version of modules instead of contributing to the >> work others began. > > I suspect that many of th

Re: Module requirements

2006-04-06 Thread David Golden
Randy W. Sims wrote: Yep, that's ridiculous. I used to see these questions a lot back when I was answering mails on the beginner groups. People wanting to do things that have already been done and widely tested, but everyone wants to write their own in order to "reduce dependencies". Reinvent