Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: >> > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then >> > its not my problem anymore right? Wou

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:47:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 26 M

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:50]: > One of the very few reasons I maintain a Windows box here and > endure the pain (for me - subjective I know) that goes with it > is so I can test my modules against Win32. So do I. And yeah, I find it painful too. But it’s not open for deb

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 20:10]: > besides uploading to CPAN and waiting for the CPAN testers to > test my modules on platforms I don't have? [*] > > Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc > (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html ) > set o

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 5/26/07, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 May 2007, at 19:08, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc > > (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html ) > > set of servers whe

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 19:21, demerphq wrote: > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26 May 2007, at 19:08, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> > Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc >> > (see full list on this page http://w

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 19:21, demerphq wrote: On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 19:08, Gabor Szabo wrote: > Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc > (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html ) > set of servers where one could

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:06:18 +0200, demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: >> > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from no

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from demerphq # on Saturday 26 May 2007 10:45 am: >> Sorry, but it is *the _compression_ software's* bug. > >Fine, then what do i do about it? File a bug with Archive::Tar >(maintained by a non windows programmer)? This should be properly handled by the dist action of any sufficiently modern M

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 19:08, Gabor Szabo wrote: > Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc > (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html ) > set of servers where one could test his modules? There's the HP Testdrive

Re: testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 19:08, Gabor Szabo wrote: Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/index.html ) set of servers where one could test his modules? There's the HP Testdrive thing - and there may be similar things for other platfo

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 19:06, demerphq wrote: I was out of line in how i put things. I apologise. Thanks Yves. I /still/ think it's pretty cool that basically we're all friends :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

testing on other platforms

2007-05-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
If you have already started to argue about Windows vs Unix issues is there a way - besides uploading to CPAN and waiting for the CPAN testers to test my modules on platforms I don't have? [*] Is there some publicly available Solaris/HP-UX/etc (see full list on this page http://www.cpan.org/ports/

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 19:03, Gabor Szabo wrote: did you all wake up on the wrong side ? Could you please calm down? I can confirm that I'm spectacularly calm :) -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then > its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. Fine then. The fact that ExtUtils make dist automa

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 5/26/07, Andy Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: > Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then > its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. You know - you've kind of tickled a raw nerve here.

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 18:45, demerphq wrote: Maybe ill just upload my files in zip format from now on only, then its not my problem anymore right? Would that be better? That would be fine. You know - you've kind of tickled a raw nerve here. One of the very few reasons I maintain a Windows box he

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:20]: > BTW, id say that if this is an issue for Unix users then they > should file a bug with the people that wrote their > decompression software and/or installer software. It's the decompression s

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 19:20]: > BTW, id say that if this is an issue for Unix users then they > should file a bug with the people that wrote their > decompression software and/or installer software. It’s the decompression software’s fault that it correctly preserves the data i

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 26 May 2007, at 18:16, demerphq wrote: I dont see it as being my problem as a Win32 developer at all. Im sympathetic to the annoyance it causes but to me its like opening a book written in a language you dont read and complaining that it isnt written in one you do. I mean if Win32 doesnt even

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, A. Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 17:35]: > Can you explain this please? Why would the lack of a set x bit > on a directory prevent you from doing > > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test Yes. Im assuming this means "Yes it prevent

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* demerphq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 17:35]: > Can you explain this please? Why would the lack of a set x bit > on a directory prevent you from doing > > perl Makefile.PL > make > make test Yes. > Is this simply so you dont have to type 'perl'? No. The x bit on a directory determines

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread demerphq
On 5/26/07, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some modules' tarballs don't set the x bit on directories, which makes it impossible for a non-root user to run Makefile.PL or the module's tests. The usual cause is that the author suffers from Windows, and the fix is to use '--mode 755' whe

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-26 16:45]: > I think it would be a good idea for CPANTS to check that > directories have the x bits set. ++ > This would either be a new metric +=0 > or could be rolled into 'extracts_nicely' ++ > or could be combined with 'no_symlinks' and called

CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread David Cantrell
Some modules' tarballs don't set the x bit on directories, which makes it impossible for a non-root user to run Makefile.PL or the module's tests. The usual cause is that the author suffers from Windows, and the fix is to use '--mode 755' when creating the tarball. I think it would be a good