Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Paul Fenwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think a good solution is to add a new category called "honours". It is an > honour to have your module packaged by Debian, included in the ActiveState > distro, or to be used by another CPAN module. For honours, we only

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Paul Fenwick
G'day Everyone, brian d foy wrote: I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can fix by doing something to the distribution itself, measure it. If it's anything else, leave it out. Gabor Szabo wrote:

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * brian d foy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10T12:27:29] >> I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the >> distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can >> fix by doing some

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* brian d foy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10T12:27:29] > I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the > distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can > fix by doing something to the distribution itself, measure it. If it's > anything else, leave it o

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM, brian d foy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the > distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can > fix by doing something to the distribution itself, measure it. If it's > anything

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread brian d foy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am sending this to both the module-authors list so you can be > > aware of the new metrics and the perl-qa list as they might > > have a few words

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-09 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sending this to both the module-authors list so you can be > aware of the new metrics and the perl-qa list as they might > have a few words as well regarding kwalitee. First, I have to say that I applaud and appreciate t

New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
Two days ago or so I posted a blog entry about the new CPANTS metrics. http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/06/1212827982.html I am glad that already there are some comments about them even if both chromatic and Andy Lester are well, slightly against them and even Ovid did not like the Test::NoWarnings

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-02 Thread Joshua ben Jore
On 4/1/07, Graham Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 31, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Yuval Kogman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: >> uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which >> should deduct

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Graham Barr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 31, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Yuval Kogman wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Hmm... reading into the other metrics, i

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 19:51:09 -0500, Graham Barr wrote: > Yes look at the date > > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:14:42 +0200 > > Seems like a few fell for it though :-) My excuse is that I'm jetlagged and I barely know what day of the week it is, let alone what the date is ;-) It was def. a good

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 01 April 2007 07:11, ReneeB wrote: > I dont't use vi(m) or emacs! There's a kwalitee ding for sure! -- c

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-01 00:20]: > Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put > some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. Congrats on being _the_ _only_ _one_ to pull an online April fool’s prank, all day, that actually managed to lead me as

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread David E . Wheeler
On Mar 31, 2007, at 21:06, Shlomi Fish wrote: Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most advanced version control system: CVS? Are you kidding? Methinks you are not familiar with chromatic's sense of humor. Most people aren't, though, especially in email. :-)

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andy Armstrong # on Sunday 01 April 2007 07:53 am: >Agreed. May I propose the additional requirement that the   >documentation contain a lengthy treatise on the benefits of true[1]   >object orientation? > >[1] For whichever value of 'true' the author prefers. Yes, but then it should also

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 1 Apr 2007, at 15:45, Paul Johnson wrote: uses_oo Shortcoming: Your code contains conditional statements (if, unless, or, ?: and so forth). This indicates that you do not have a firm grasp of OO principles and probably need to reread the GoF book. Remedy: Replace all you

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 01:29:59PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > I'm going to start using this once I can optimise it. It takes too > long to run at the moment > > sub if_then_else { > my ($cond, $true, $false) = @_; > return if_then_else(!$cond, $false, $true); > } > > You pass it a

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 1 Apr 2007, at 15:11, ReneeB wrote: But everybody has different opinions about "nice_code". And sometimes companies force their employees to write the code in a specific layout. I don't like the idea of forcing people to program in a specific way. I know all about recursion, And the ben

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread ReneeB
Eric Wilhelm schrieb: I'm looking forward to the source (must just be delayed by PAUSE.) I'm curious whether the mentions_kwalitee metric has any gaming-prevention. If I say "reduced kwalitee" in the changelog, does that count for or against me? Some of the new metrics can't be satisfie

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 1 Apr 2007, at 10:36, Eric Wilhelm wrote: I'm looking forward to the source (must just be delayed by PAUSE.) I'm curious whether the mentions_kwalitee metric has any gaming- prevention. If I say "reduced kwalitee" in the changelog, does that count for or against me? I'm going to add the

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-04-01 Thread Eric Wilhelm
e >>> for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank >>> the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me >>> finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) >>> >>> So, the new CPANTS metr

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread ReneeB
this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics are: * docs_make_sense * mentions_kwalitee * uses_version_control * reuses_code * uses_recursion * correct_speling * nice_code_layout Some of the new metrics can't be satisfied. I doubt that all dists can "use&

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 31 March 2007 21:06, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 01 April 2007, chromatic wrote: > > Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most > > advanced version control system: CVS? > CVS is not advanced as: > 1. Microsoft Visual SourceSafe - the only sane choice

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 01 April 2007, chromatic wrote: > On Saturday 31 March 2007 15:26, Yuval Kogman wrote: > > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. > > Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most > advanced version co

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread David Golden
a big project on time (more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics are: * docs_make_sense * mentions_kwalitee * uses_version_control * reuses_code * uses_recursion * correct_speling * nice_code_layout You can find a more detailed description of the metrics and how th

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
(more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics are: * docs_make_sense * mentions_kwalitee * uses_version_control * reuses_code * uses_recursion * correct_speling * nice_code_layout Some of those are going to be quite challenging to satisy :) -- Andy Armstrong

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 31 March 2007 15:26, Yuval Kogman wrote: > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Maybe so, but how else can CPANTS detect that you use the world's most advanced version control system: CVS? -- c

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote: > uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which > should deduct kwalitee IMHO. Hmm... reading into the other metrics, it seems like you were kidding. My bad ;-) -- Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://nothi

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Yuval Kogman
uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which should deduct kwalitee IMHO. -- Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 pgpsXwQhXSOWB.pgp Description: PGP signature

New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics