Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-06 Thread Graham Barr
On Mar 5, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: * brian d foy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-04T12:09:26] I'm not talking about the particular field name, but the idea that I'd want to say in META.yml "Don't send me mail", or whatever setting I want. Instead of having to disable (or enable) CC

Re: TAPx::Parser -> TAP::Parser?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Lester
On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:34 AM, Smylers wrote: Ovid writes: Schwern ... does not object to renaming TAPx::Parser to TAP::Parser. I would rather not have the intermediate step of TAPx::Parser -> TAP::Parser -> Test::Harness 3.0. -- Andy Lester => [EMAIL PROTECTED] => www.petdance.com => AIM:

CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Armstrong
Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to be getting his mail just now either. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: TAPx::Parser -> TAP::Parser?

2007-03-06 Thread Ovid
--- Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would rather not have the intermediate step of TAPx::Parser -> > TAP::Parser -> Test::Harness 3.0. Test::Harness 3.0 will eventually be a separate distribution. There will still be a TAP::Parser with TAP::Harness in that distribution. Cheers, Ovi

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status > of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. > > I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to be > getting his mail just no

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Christopher H. Laco
Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: >> Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status >> of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. >> >> I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own server :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(r

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Christopher H. Laco
Thomas Klausner wrote: > Hi! > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > >> It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) > > It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own > server :-) > > No, lazy is good. Don't let any

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Mar 2007, at 15:01, Christopher H. Laco wrote: It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) I had noticed a certain ... mobility :) - -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Da

Fuzz testing

2007-03-06 Thread David Cantrell
Has anyone done any perl fuzz-testing - that is, written something that generates valid but silly code in an attempt to find errors in the interpreter or in a module? It seems like a worthwhile thing to do, but I'm struggling to imagine what it would look like, particularly for testing pure-pe

Re: Fuzz testing

2007-03-06 Thread Barbie
Hi Dave, > Has anyone done any perl fuzz-testing - that is, written something that > generates valid but silly code in an attempt to find errors in the > interpreter or in a module? Is Acme::BadExample what you're looking for? The module that spawned a brilliant and enlightening talk by Jos at

Re: Fuzz testing

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
David Cantrell wrote: Has anyone done any perl fuzz-testing - that is, written something that generates valid but silly code in an attempt to find errors in the interpreter or in a module? It seems like a worthwhile thing to do, but I'm struggling to imagine what it would look like, particula

Getting overloaded objects right is hard.

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
Really hard. I've been trying to fix Test::Builder's behavior with abnormal overloaded objects. This started with DateTime which can stringify and compare but not numify. This revealed that cmp_ok() isn't testing overloaded objects correctly, it always stringifies or numifies before executin

Re: a safer way to use no_plan?

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: At the bottom of a test file: {my $finish = 1; END {$finish or die "\n unplanned exit"}}; Yeah, you have to remember to put it at the end of the file, but it may be easier than counting tests. Thoughts? Maybe an 'until_done' directive and 'tests_done' function? Ways

Re: a safer way to use no_plan?

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
Andy Lester wrote: On Mar 3, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Yeah, you have to remember to put it at the end of the file, but it may be easier than counting tests. Good Lord do I get frustrated at the handwringing over test counting. Look, it's simple. You write your tests. You run

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
Graham Barr wrote: What I think brian is saying, and I agree, is that he does not want to have to say "don't send me mail" N times. Where N is between 1 and, um I don't know. Haw many tools will there ever be that want to send mail back to the author and what will their names be ? So as well as

Re: Custom extensions to META.yml

2007-03-06 Thread brian d foy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you saying that you want a per-author META.yml or that you don't > want to have to say "don't send me mail" in two places in each > distribution, or both? I'm not proposing anything. I think I siad that before. I ju

Re: a safer way to use no_plan?

2007-03-06 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Tuesday 06 March 2007 04:40 pm: >Eric Wilhelm wrote: >> At the bottom of a test file: >> >> {my $finish = 1; END {$finish or die "\n unplanned exit"}}; >> >> Yeah, you have to remember to put it at the end of the file, but it >> may be easier than counting tests.

Re: a safer way to use no_plan?

2007-03-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: http://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=20959 It sounds like this needs work in the done() functionality. Also, it's not clear at first reading whether a prefixed plan is able to make the done() into a no-op. Ah well, on the pile it goes. As in this? use Tes

Re: a safer way to use no_plan?

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
Its O(1) vs O(n). We do the work once to make "no plan" safer, everybody benefits for happily ever after. Your argument sounds like the things I had to deal with when I introduced Test::More. "Why should we load a module with all these functions when I can just write 'print ...my test... ? "

Re: Fuzz testing

2007-03-06 Thread Adam Kennedy
Barbie wrote: Hi Dave, Has anyone done any perl fuzz-testing - that is, written something that generates valid but silly code in an attempt to find errors in the interpreter or in a module? Is Acme::BadExample what you're looking for? The module that spawned a brilliant and enlightening talk