Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread Cosimo Streppone
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:35:52 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote: As a result of the discussions, I'm now reconsidering using Mouse in TB2. Good! This is a critical violation of encapsulation. Yes. Plus, what would happen if at some point Mouse wanted to use TB2 for its test suite? -- Cosi

Re: Need suggestions for terminology

2011-12-06 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:21:13PM -0600, brian d foy wrote: > In article <20111205154758.gh17...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David > Cantrell wrote: > > There's at least one other significant difference: CPAN has an > > up-to-date index. BackPAN doesn't. > Well, CPAN's index is also BackPAN's inde

Re: Need suggestions for terminology

2011-12-06 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:32 AM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:21:13PM -0600, brian d foy wrote: >> In article <20111205154758.gh17...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David >> Cantrell wrote: >> > There's at least one other significant difference: CPAN has an >> > up-to-date index.

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 2011.12.6 1:23 AM, Cosimo Streppone wrote: > Plus, what would happen if at some point Mouse wanted to > use TB2 for its test suite? You might have missed that part of the conversation. TB2 would not depend on Mouse, it has its own embedded copy. It would work fine. -- "Clutter and overload

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread Cosimo Streppone
On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:50:16 +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote: On 2011.12.6 1:23 AM, Cosimo Streppone wrote: Plus, what would happen if at some point Mouse wanted to use TB2 for its test suite? You might have missed that part of the conversation. TB2 would not depend on Mouse, it has its

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 2011.12.6 10:56 AM, Cosimo Streppone wrote: > I wasn't referring to a dependency problem, > but to the actual code being the same on the > thing-that-tests and thing-that-is-being-tested. It would be a problem if they were the same code, but they're not because TB2::Mouse is a copy of an earlie

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Leon Timmermans wrote: >> So, uhh... I'm going to go do a bad thing. > > What would be the repercussions of putting this in the fridge a little > longer (I know, it's been in there for far too long already) and > porting it to the upcoming mop? *How* much longer? Does

Re: Reconsidering Mouse in TB2

2011-12-06 Thread David E. Wheeler
On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:59 PM, Leon Timmermans wrote: >> *How* much longer? Does the upcoming MOP include syntax (class, method, role >> keywords) and stuff like roles? Will one be able to drop Mouse in favor of >> it? > > I just asked doy. It will support all of that, but not on older > versions