On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 03:14:33PM -0600, Scott Bolte wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:22:24 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote:
It wouldn't be Test::Harness, it would be a seperate Test::Depends or
something.
I could live with that, but why do you think it needs to
be separate
, and let T::H become the uber-tester.
Some sort of BNF, if the syntax can be wedged into one, would be nice.
What does need to be done is for me to finish abstracting out the formatter
to allow custom harness more easily.
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pukes.
However, I don't know how these will interact with Inline::C.
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need
it.
[1] For those of you unfamiliar with Aegis, I wrote up a little
Aegis From 10,000 Feet piece a while back.
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/tmp/aegis.nutshell
Just keep repeating to yourself, Its not CVS. Its not CVS. Its not CVS.
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never get done. But if we keep it simple something workable can
probably be knocked together in a few days.
I'm putting this up on the MakeMaker Wiki for collaborative refinement.
http://www.makemaker.org/wiki/?AutomatedTestDistribution
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to use to make things easier for them. Easy, simple,
and effective if you can get people testing.
Turn around time too slow and requires a human.
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purl Hey Schwern! honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,
honk
understand. There's nothing for the user to keep up to date
by hand.
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HA HA HA You're all so rediculous! But thanks for the money!
mentioned
earlier.
Thing is who is going to give access to their machine(s) via some ad. hoc.
scheme? I am not for a start.
Why would the method of network transport figure into that decision?
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 06:36:22AM -0600, Scott Bolte wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 01:07:38 -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
See above. Yes, ssh is not portable enough.
Where is the gap? I have OpenSSH on every Unix platform I
use and, with cygwin's help, all the windows based
incidental coverage for things it depends on.
Test::Harness just runs the tests you give it. Simplest thing to do is
to just write a little script that has the necessary logic to determine what
set of tests to run and feed that file list to runtests().
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$num_left = $TB-expected_tests - $TB-current_test;
$TB-skip($why) for 1..$num_left;
exit;
}
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Let's leave my ass out of this, shall we?
'no_plan';
pass(Test this);
SKIP: { skip because, 1 }
exit;
pass(This is never run);
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There's only one thing to do: MIX HARD LIQUOR and BEER!!!
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mendel ScHWeRnsChweRNsChWErN SchweRN SCHWErNSChwERnsCHwERN
sChWErn ScHWeRn schweRn sCHWErN schWeRnscHWeRN
SchWeRN scHWErn SchwErn scHWErn ScHweRN sChwern
to clear up the ambiguity around use_ok, require_ok and
is_deeply.
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You're smoother than a tunnel of shining sorrow.
.
Also, --no-trap-stdout and --no-trap-stderr options might be in order.
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It's Flypaper Licking time!
*STDERR;
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I'm exploring my nipples.
this sort of thing.
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Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc subscriptis
exiguitas non caperet.
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 08:59:38PM +0100, Fergal Daly wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 01:59:35PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Likely you'd control if you wanted this behavior with
HARNESS_PERL_SWITCHES=-MTest::AutoDebug
This can be implemented, currently, by adding a post hook onto
;
use Hook::LexWrap;
wrap 'Test::Builder::ok',
post = sub {
my $tb = shift;
my $ok = $_[-1];
enter_the_debugger if !$ok;
};
Or something like that.
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there should be only 1 real Test::Builder object but allowing
other instances would make test-module testing easier and test nesting
(suites of suites etc) possible,
Yes, this is planned for 0.50. If nothing else it will let Test::Builder
test itself and make Mark Fowler handy.
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utility (database).
Test coverage is a useful *heuristic* for test effectiveness. Like all
heuristics if you push it too far it falls apart. Get as close to 100% as
is useful and don't worry about the rest.
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11. Every old
;
$this || return;
Basically anything of the $foo || constant variety. Devel::Cover could
probably be smartened up to handle these cases better.
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Fuck with me and I will saw off your legs.
http://www.unamerican.com/
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 06:31:09PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Looking through a coverage analysis I just ran, here's some more idioms
that trip up 100% coverage.
my $foo = $bar || '';
my $foo = $bar || 1;
$this || return;
Basically anything of the $foo
to do would be to make a
local miniCPAN mirror [1] and walk through the archive files [2] in
modules/02packages.details.txt looking for META.yml.
[1] http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/col42.html
[2] Archive::Any will come in handy
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to Richard to skip /^[A-Z]$/ by default. This nails
all the magic methods I can think of.
I just had an idea. Per module private/trustme lists for Pod::Coverage.
=for Pod::Coverage trustme
you_cant_find_my_docs()
=for Pod::Coverage private
im_really_private()
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causing problems with tests
relying on object destruction.
- Added example of calculating the number of tests to Test::Tutorial
- Peter Scott made the ending logic not fire on child processes when
forking.
* Test::Builder is once again ithread safe.
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Adrian Howard wrote:
On 19 Jul 2004, at 07:25, Michael G Schwern wrote:
[snip]
There's a new feature. When run under Test::Harness diagnostic output
will
throw in a leading newline for better readability.
[snip]
Which causes anything testing
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:07:39 -0700, Geoffrey Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the Apache-Test integration stuff we talked about at YAPC works just fine
with 0.48_02.
Lovely, thanks. As soon as I hear Test::Builder::Tester has adjusted
for the formatting change I'll release this as 0.49.
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:38:12 -0400, Geoffrey Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
just out of curiosity, what's the word on 0.49?
I've finally summoned the willpower to wrestle with Aegis to make
branch closing not be a gulag-like exercise. 0.49 is ready to go
except for some silly looking merge bug.
Here's how it is as of 0.49.
If you want Test::More to be thread safe you have to use threads
yourself and do it before you use Test::More. This is a change from
previous versions. Previously I took the view that users will
probably get this wrong so I'll just do it for them. The change was
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 01:12:45 + (UTC), Mark Stosberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It also worked. Here's what I used:
`echo 'y' | my_shell_cmd`
I'm sure there's some other cooler way, but this works well enough for me.
Eventually you'll want something more flexible and portable. You can
Its about freakin' time. Has it really been two years since the last
stable release? Yes it has.
This is 0.48_02 plus a minor test and MANIFEST fix.
INCOMPATIBILITIES WITH PREVIOUS VERSIONS
* Threading is no longer automatically turned on. You must turn it on
before you use
Test::More if
. This follows the usual pattern
of breaking compatibility. Warn about it in one stable series then eliminate
it in the next.
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Home of da bomb
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 09:10:30PM -0400, James E Keenan wrote:
Yes, as I subsequently discovered, it's in the mysteriously named
'darwin-2level' directory.
This is the architecture specific directory where any modules with a
non-portable component (read: compiled C code) goes.
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'
foo
$ bleadperl -wle 'sub lock { foo } print lock'
foo
$ bleadperl -wle 'sub err { foo } print err'
Ambiguous call resolved as CORE::err(), qualify as such or use at -e line 1.
syntax error at -e line 1, at EOF
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:04:50 -0400, Peter Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, what's the elegent way to ignore/dispose of the output the tested
module produces?
Tie STDOUT. Look at Test::More's own test suite for examples.
http://search.cpan.org/src/MSCHWERN/Test-Simple-0.49/t/lib/TieOut.pm
Bill Moseley for noticing]
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7a. Good, Fast, Cheap: Pick any two (you can't have all three).
-- RFC 1925
on Windows (not a real bug).
[rt.cpan.org 8022]
- Change from CVS to SVK. Hopefully this is the last time I move
version control systems.
- Again removing File::Spec dependency (came back in 0.48_02)
- Change from Aegis back to CVS
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 04:57:19AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/Test-Simple-0.51.tar.gz
Correction.
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Test-Simple-0.51.tar.gz
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They had applied
systems.
- Again removing File::Spec dependency (came back in 0.48_02)
- Change from Aegis back to CVS
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My lips, your breast and a whole lotta strange arguing.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 10:51:26PM +0100, Tels wrote:
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 10:57, Michael G Schwern wrote:
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/Test-Simple-0.51.tar.gz
Just wanted to send you a big thank you for your work on Test::*. I am slwly
converting my testsuites to Test::More
in order to figure out what's going on here.
Could you send them?
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I blame myself. AND SATAN.
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 03:57:43PM +1100, Andrew Savige wrote:
To try and cheer you up a bit, I'm delighted to report that your new
Test-Simple-0.51 passed all tests on Windows XP under Perl 5.8.5
using NMAKE.
Thank you, I am very much lacking in Windows tuits at the moment.
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. Hacked
around it.
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Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
-- Red Green
for that, something
about eval'ing $VERSION.
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My enormous capacity for love is being WASTED on YOU guys
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- Fixed bug in fail_one.t on Windows (not a real bug).
- TODO reasons as overloaded objects now won't blow up under threads.
[Autrijus Tang]
- skip() in 0.50 tickled yet another bug in threads::shared. Hacked
around it.
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up under threads.
[Autrijus Tang]
- skip() in 0.50 tickled yet another bug in threads::shared. Hacked
around it.
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Hey you kids, come back here! I know who your parents are! You wouldn't
do this if Nixon
to be Test.pm, not a new module. Just a new
back-end.
Yes, what Andy said.
Ok, Test::Legacy it is. Now I have to figure out if I want to reimplement
Test.pm from scratch or try and wedge a TB object into the existing code.
Sean's added a lot of code since last I looked.
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;
eval qq{use $module};
return $@ ? Can't load $module : 0;
}
I'm not totally pleased with having backwards logic but it does seem
the simplest way to do it.
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MERV GRIFFIN!
.
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Plus I remember being impressed with Ada because you could write an
infinite loop without a faked up condition. The idea being that in Ada
the typical infinite loop would be normally be terminated by detonation
. And it might
jump to another server again, I dunno. And I'm not entirely happy with
WebSVN...
Everything is as stable as ever.
[1] And as I work on more modules they'll get moved from CVS to there.
[2] Which at the moment is just an alias to mungus.schwern.org.
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is this for? --- possible C ignorance
I hope you're not emulating Test::More's exit code == # of tests failed
feature that I'm planning on getting rid of.
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michael schwern is
cmp_ok() using an eval. Could a macro prove useful
here to do something similar?
cmp_ok(foo, 'int', '==', bar);
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I am the soul of honor, kindness, mercy, and goodness. Trust me in all things.
-- Corwin, Guns
* sbar = bar;
cmp_ok(ifoo, int, eq, ibar);
cmp_ok(sfoo, str, eq, sbar);
return 0;
}
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Kids - don't try this at--oh, hell, go ahead, give it a whirl...
but that's just another way
of saying don't use this.
[1] I couldn't find a wait2() anywhere, just waitpid().
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Don't step on my funk
it.
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Keep your stick on the ice.
-- Red Green
/FAQ.pod
And I should get the QA wiki working again.
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It's Crack Cocaine time!
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It's Yellowing Laudanum time!
://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2539
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Life is like a sewer. What you get out of it depends on what you put into it.
- Tom Lehrer
and *FOO{IO} properly.
- maybe_regex() now handles undef gracefully.
- maybe_regex() now handles 'm,foo,' style regexes.
- sort_bug.t wasn't checking for threads properly. Would fail on
5.6 that had ithreads compiled in. [rt.cpan.org 8765]
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the first few iterations, get the team together to decide.
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Abandon failing tactics.
styles is now odious to you, that's a communication problem.
Part of easy communication is taking advantage of common idioms and
conventions. Doesn't matter how clever it is, if its causing conflict with
outsiders, dump it.
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a description
of test failures. This is slated to be fixed in the future.
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Keep your stick on the ice.
-- Red Green
perldoc -m ExtUtils::MANIFEST.SKIP and see if it looks like either of
the urls above.
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You're the sickest teenager I've ever set my wallet on.
time nicely. The book can be had for $4 used.
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AY! The ground beef, she is burning my groin!
http://sluggy.com/d/990105.html
2004
- Apparently its possible to have Module::Signature installed without
it being functional. Fixed the signature test to account for this.
(not a real bug)
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Mines are equal opportunity weapons.
04B8 E9D5 93A2 5CA8 F1AA 4F82 E2DC 2C3F
3F34
== SKIPPED CHECKING 'Makefile'! (run Makefile.PL to ensure its integrity)
===
Not in MANIFEST: foo
Grr. Mandatory file locking strikes again. is_fh.t didn't close a temp
file before unlinking it.
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anyone's
going to drive binary data through a TB filehandle. The question is
how does one do it without breaking older perls?
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Once is a prank. Twice is a nuisance. But NINE TIMES is a TRADITION.
-- Mark-Jason
it was set to before? I'm always going to be
shoving text out through this filehandle.
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And God was pleased.
And Dog was happy and wagged his tail.
And Adam was greatly improved.
And Cat did not care one way
, this is not something the user should have to care about.
Only text is shoved through those filehandles so setting them to handle
Unicode should always be the right thing to do, unless it breaks an old
perl.
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I hate war as only a soldier
My Official Policy on this is now to let people who actually understand
character encodings to work it out and just wait for a patch.
PS Somebody should drag autrijus into this.
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We don't know. But if we did, we
modules you can get the same intent with
Test::Builder-reset.
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...and that, children, is how to clean and load a .38 revolver. Questions?
;
...etc...
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You see, in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with loaded
guns, and those who dig. Dig.
-- Blondie, The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
but Ima::DBI doesn't even show up on the list. If
Ima::DBI breaks, Class::DBI and everything it depends on breaks. So all of
Class::DBI's dependencies can be weighted towards Ima::DBI.
I think all of this can be derived from a list of
Module: Dependency1, Dependency 2, etc...
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/Acme/EyeDrops/koaladile.eye
That's awsome!
Though I still prefer this one:
http://search.cpan.org/src/ASAVIGE/Acme-EyeDrops-1.45/lib/Acme/EyeDrops/schwern.eye
Good likeness. :)
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This Ring, no other, is made
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Ian Langworth wrote:
I'm taking a software development class this semester which will involve
writing extensive object-oriented code. My partner and I are trying to
decide whether to use Test::Unit, ::Class, or ::Inline for our test scripts.
I can
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:48:56PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My main gripe is that the infrastructure for it is less OO friendly. The
example with the HTML output was awesome..until i looked at how it was
done. The inability to get a data structure back for the test results
is
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 05:55:24PM -0500, David Golden wrote:
While this simple example just has the test function shove a reference to a
hash onto a global array @{$Tester::RESULTS{$filename}}, the test function
could just as easily create an object (Test::Object::Ok, Test::Object::Is,
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Tels wrote:
If I understand the current test model correctly, the seperation also has
the advantage that if the test dies, the parser is largely unaffected. It
even tells you *where* it died (e.g. after test #7). If you have
test/parser in one
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:51:22PM +, Adrian Howard wrote:
I've just noticed that the perl-qa wiki linked from http://qa.perl.org/
is still toast.
Basically I accidentally deleted the CGI program and since it was one of
those everything, including the config, in one file things I haven't
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:07:04PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
So I may as well do that now.
Done. Let me know if that seems like its the right database, there were
several to choose from owing to circumstances.
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:13:44PM -0500, Jeff Bisbee wrote:
This is the boilerplate our group put together to use when contacting
authors.
ENOATTACHMENT
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 03:12:20PM -0500, Stevan Little wrote:
I sent Schwern a patch to change 'names' to 'description', but then
Andy brought up the idea of 'labels'. At the time, Schwern said it was
'in the pipeline', but I expect its actually been moved out since.
If its not in the RT
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 04:47:55PM -0800, chromatic wrote:
Let me second that one! Of course, Andy's already made it clear that
he doesn't have a lot of time, but I still don't mind kicking 'im. :)
I think the right approach is to patch T::H::S to collect diagnostic
information and make
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 06:59:26PM -0500, Ian Langworth wrote:
'comment', however, seems just right -- it implies a short, optional
description.
I like comment, too. It already has a meaning in Perl (and every other
language) and its just the same.
So as of right now, that's official.
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 03:03:29PM +, Adrian Howard wrote:
Test::Unit, as mentioned by Curtis, has been abandoned.
Has it? I thought that the folk on [EMAIL PROTECTED] had taken
it on ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PerlUnit/ shows some activity on the mailing
list. Its members-only so
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 01:56:50PM -0800, chromatic wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 16:46 -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Trouble is STDOUT is parsed while STDERR is not so T::H has to be able
to disambiguate them while still displaying them in the correct ordering
and not run afoul of any
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 02:49:55PM -0800, chromatic wrote:
It's a patch to Test::Harness::Straps, the documentation of which
disclaims backwards compatibility. I'd like it to work on Windows so as
to avoid people complaining if it doesn't, but I'm just saying that 1) I
don't feel any
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 03:02:03PM -0800, Ovid wrote:
I have no problem with this. Is anyone even using THS?
Yes. Everyone who uses Test::Harness.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 07:30:24AM -0500, David Golden wrote:
Very nice integration of IO::Capture.
I think this is very promising, but all the start(), stop() calls seem
overly repetitive to me. What about refactoring it into a set of test
functions that handle it for the user
On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 01:41:17PM +, Mark Stosberg wrote:
Err, why? Who else is emitting a version string? Or anything? Do we
start prefixing everything else with TAP?
I have intentionally put version strings in the output, especially of
of related modules. For example, DBD::Pg
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 02:12:26AM +0100, Steffen Schwigon wrote:
Is it ok for a CPAN module to use other modules from CPAN only for the
test scripts (e.g. Text::Diff)?
Up to you. The way I look at it, if you have one dependency it doesn't
hurt to have another. Either they're using a CPAN
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:19:09AM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
http://www.petdance.com/random/tap.html
Everyone: I still need more comments. Pete Krawczyk's the only one to
provide complaints yet.
There's no discussion of the exit code of the test process.
Acknowledgements should
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:34:24AM +, David Cantrell wrote:
The practice of bundling third-party modules with yours is IMO very
wrong indeed. If I bundle (eg) Test::Frobnitz, and a hundred other
people bundle Test::Frobnitz, then this leads to two problems:
1. when the author of
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 12:29:59PM -, Clayton, Nik wrote:
Perhaps a gammar (or just a regex) that describes a fully conforming test
line would be helpful.
Some comments about POSIX (non-)conformance might be useful, see the DejaGnu
docs for examples;
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 02:42:49PM -, Clayton, Nik wrote:
T::H specific, not relevant to TAP.
As T::H is the only complete implementation of TAP and thus is something of
a working reference, it is quite relevant to note where it strays from the
ideal.
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 03:40:55PM -0500, Peter Kay wrote:
Chromatic wrote:
1) an optional description of a test, which occurs after the test number
but precedes an optional '#' character and anything following until the
newline character, having no effect on parsing
Summary?
Summary
For any brave Phalanx folks who wish to target MakeMaker I can point you at
some critically deficient areas of its testing.
1) XS. There is absolutely no testing of XS code. The primary problem is
determining if the user has a working build chain. I think Module::Build
has code to do this
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:42:57PM -0800, chromatic wrote:
The TAP documentation in 2.47_01 says:
A harness must only read TAP output from standard output and not from
standard error.
The way Test::Builder works, diagnostics always go to STDERR. Is there
a reason for this beyond
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 08:05:13PM -0800, David Wheeler wrote:
The way Test::Builder works, diagnostics always go to STDERR. Is there
a reason for this beyond It's tricky to correlate diagnostics to the
appropriate test numbers? (I agree with that, but I'm willing to take
my chances on
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