removing it).
This is a possibility for perl's internal docs, but its kind of a pain
fr external stuff. Perhaps we can distribute perl's internal docs
with the '=for example' built in (since if you install the docs you
should also install the new POD utilities) and provide
by that's okay its just the autochecker
making a mistake."
On the issue of compatibility, we can use a POD autoconverter as Tim
suggested to translate the '=for example's into C<> as part of the
release (or build) process. This avoids the necessity of patching all
the PO
barfoo');
=pod
We state that Perl does something in the docs and we put a test right
after it (or near it).
This isn't any sort of WONDERTEST but I'm trying to start small
and solve the problems I know we can solve with the least amount of
effort.
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If you missed it, Ask has mail archives for this list up on
http://tmtowtdi.perl.org/.
Yay Ask!
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make a channel called Perl, and infest
m up, if Perl 6 wants a formal spec, then that's the spec.
But we'll always have the regression suite to fall back on.
PS I'm trying to keep QA RFC discussions on perl-qa rather than
bootstrap.
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Just
esting the perl6->perl5
translation stuff that's planned.
But you'll note this is perl-qa, not perl6-qa. We're not waiting for
perl6, we want to use this on perl5. Now. Yinz'll just have to catch
up.
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On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:01:22PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote:
> If you do this for new code or changed documentation adding
> a =for result would add more test cases.
Sorry, I don't follow.
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Just Ano
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:49:29PM -0400, Clinton A. Pierce wrote:
> Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > In One Sentence
> > ---
> >
> > All code examples in the Perl docs can be at a minimum tested for syntax
> > errors in an automated fashion.
>
>
-qa only. Sorry if I
didn't make this explicit.
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael G Schwern writes:
> :In One Sentence
> :---
> :
> :All patches to perl must have an associated testing patch.
>
> Can you explain more about how you'll test documentat
was actually a subtle hint that YOU might want to write an RFC on it. ;)
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The adverse effect is your bone cells will try to grow back to its o
27;t make it anyting but easy to write POD.
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Sometimes these hairstyles are exaggerated beyond the laws of physics
- Unknown nar
ewers and yet has special meaning to certain viewers.
=begin also /=end also works similarly
for arbitrary blocks.
Barrie, you suggested it, so its your babe now! You have the option
to sketch out a new RFC and start working on this or punt the
responsibility to somebody els
rs to help
new code patchers along in authoring tests. There is the problem of
teaching how to write a proper test, since I think there's little
practical experience out there, and also convincing people that the
tests are necessary and we're not just being anal-retentive.
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decide how they want
things spec'd. Should they decide the regression tests should be the
spec, we'll have one ready and waiting! If not, we still have a nice
set of tests.
Maybe I shouldn't even have brought it up.
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 03:08:43PM -0400, Barrie Slaymaker wrote:
> Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > Regression tests should be embedded in the code and documentation near what
> > it is they're testing.
>
> s/embedded/embeddable/ and I'm there. I don't think you
perl-qa FAQ or get someone to do
it for you.
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Plus I remember being impressed with Ada because you could write an
infinite loop without a fak
Group/RFC process we're
> inventing.
Why distinct?
BTW Does QA need QA? Should there be a formal way to make sure that
QA is doing its job?
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really done much coverage
analysis. Would someone with time and experience step forward and
take responsiblity for it?
PS In case people aren't aware, there's Devel::Coverage.
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a bit.
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But why? It's such a well designed cesspool of C++ code. Why wouldn't
you want to hack mozilla?
-- Ziggy
nal attention.
Either way, start collecting FAQs.
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make a channel called Perl, and infest it with joking and
funit doesnt make alot of sense.
rt us to uncovered portions of code.
> Also, I expect that some of the people willing to work on QA for perl6
> will have access to commercial tools. I have access to Pure Coverage
> for Solaris and am certainly willing to run tests and post results.
Sure! Need all the help we can ge
On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 07:49:59PM -0500, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2000 at 06:25:43PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > 3) =begin preamble/=end preamble/paragraph to test is compatible, but its
> > kind of annoying to write (or even explain) and will ru
which doesn't have an associated
testing patch as opposed to the current situation (patch now, test
later).
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turds slide easily
spoo
o have bugs.perl.org. Anyone know the state of that?
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But why? It's such a well designed cesspool of C++ code. Why wouldn't
you want
x27;t apply to them. Rather than attempting to explicitly
enumerate all these special cases, we'll just wrap them up in one meta-case
and note the specifics as they come.
=head2 Independent auditors
CPANTS will be its own thing. While it wll obviously work with CPAN
and the Perl developers, it will be beholden to neither and act as a
wholely independent auditing service. Accordingly, it will have no
direct effect on CPAN or Perl, only whatever influence is granted to
it.
This will hopefully keep CPANTS honest as well as avoid the problem of
appearing to dictate style to authors.
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BOFH excuse #65:
system needs to be rebooted
Experience in large-scale automation.
I'm sure people will be knocking down my inbox to volunteer their
time, RIGHT?
PS CPANTS currently lives at http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/CPANTS/
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This was mentioned briefly a while ago. Barrie, are you still up for
maintaining a FAQ?
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Our business in life is not to succeed but to
splayed. Seemed very natural to me to
wrap X<> around keywords as I wrote them. Yes, we'll have to take
this up with the POD people.
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, yes? Not the Makemaker module testing suite. Right?
Reading over this... I have little idea what you're talking about.
Sorry. It seems a little jumbled. Perhaps you could start over and
try again? Possibly not at 1am this time? :)
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file_name, $dest_dir ) = @_ ;
> $self->{DEST_DIR} = $dest_dir ;
> croak "No destination directory supplied"
>unless defined $dest_dir && length $dest_dir ;
> $self->parse_from_file( $file_name ) ;
> }
Shouldn't that be $self->
Hey! We've got code! Barrie has Pod::Tests, Pod::AlsoSelect and I
have a prototype for the JART. Where do we put it? We have an
"official" perl 6 repository, or should I just go use Sourceforge?
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I wanted to run this by the QA group before letting it loose on the
language folks.
=pod
=head1 TITLE
"use warnings" by default for all non-one-liners.
=head1 VERSION
Maintainer: Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon Sep 4 00:02:12 EDT 2000
Ver
ch to ask?
> And the -M-warnings, is taking up a lot of room on the #! line.
I knew real-estate prices were high, but this is rediculous!
Seriously, if you're going to shut off warnings in the program, you
wouldn't do it on the #! line, you'd put a "no warnings"
portant enough.
Are you speaking of the idea as a whole, or simply what tests we
should run on code examples?
PS Try to keep discussion of this on perl-qa only.
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hes the english
documentation.
Now, while it might be possible to generate API-style docs from the
code contract, I don't think we can do that in general for the docs as
a whole. Although the idea is intriging.
Run some feasibilty tests. See what happens.
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he
feasibility of automating the testing without modifying the existing
POD? Maybe run it over a few of the existing perl man pages.
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&
y code to check for definedness) it may make
sense for the default to be the equivalent of:
use warnings;
no warnings 'uninitialized';
Everyone will have their own pet-peeve category of warnings, but I
think keepking uninitialized value warnings off by default will make
many
efault will make
> >many people happy.
>
> Not this people. Makes no sense in a default.
Could you expand on that?
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But why? It&
ndefined value" warning
from print because in all cases, shift returns undef.
I'm thinking the number of cases where you'll actually get a "Use of
uninitialized value" warning (meaning the variable was never set to
anything) would be very low.
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:13:10PM -0400, Chaim Frenkel wrote:
> >>>>> "MGS" == Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> MGS> no warnings 'uninitialized';
>
> I'm thinking of a switch, which is there external to the text of
he core POD utilities to display
=for example.
- Write POD::Example.
- Examine the feasibility of modifiying all the core documentation to use this
new tag for example code.
- Run the tests and be appalled.
Blame
-
All blame for this RFC can be transfered to Michael G Schwern
<[EMAIL PROT
undef) =
localtime;
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no paste enema
lycos is taught about it
my ass is sealed
-- Schwern
(not until feature
freeze).
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Maybe they hooked you up with one of those ass-making magazines.
-- brian d foy as misheard by Michael G Schwern
s well as a single, comprehensive report file (also
containing perl -V info). People will be encouraged to run the
benching suite and mail it back to us for evaluation.
As long as I'm rambling, if we're going to embed tests in the code,
there's no reason we couldn't also em
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 09:18:24AM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
> Is it worth opening a new list, "perl6-benchmarks"? I have a
> feeling that the traffic flow could be fairly high, at least for a while.
"perl-benchmarks" good idea. Who's chairing? (not me,
basic responsibility is nudging things forward (a thing which I
haven't been doing lately) along with requesting mailing lists when
necessary and that's about it. I'll follow up with a list of projects
that I see perl-qa as currently doing (a post I should have made a
while ago).
Take
Michael G Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If my Eternal Life Device does not give immortality, then the entire bible is
a joke.
--Alex Chiu, Immortality Guy
ion, its yours for
the next two weeks.
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make a channel called Perl, and infest it with joking and
funit doesnt make alot of sense.
; are frozen? Is Friday a reasonable date for that, since there doesn't
> seem to be much more discussion happening on them?
I may be able to get to mine Friday night.
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ted to this conversation, but I think isa() should
continue to represent the class of the object, not the type.
Consider:
my Dog $spot = Cat->new;
print $spot->isa('Dog') ? 'Dog' : 'not dog';
Currently, $spot is not a dog. It should probably remain that wa
*pop*
*pop* *pop*
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They just don't make any good porn music anymore, do they?
- WXDX DJ refering to "More, More, More"
not there yet, try
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Pod-Tests-0.01.tar.gz
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But unluckily most Germans here are too smart. They all speak good English and
won't be able to speak German to me.
and =alsofor.
This is Very Bad for getting this working under Perl 5. Even if we
modified the POD tools, people who haven't upgraded wouldn't be able
to read the docs. That's Bad.
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my mother once said
"never eat paste my darling"
would that I heeded
-- stimps
vert embedded tests and code examples to .t
files
SYNOPSIS
pod2test [-Mmodule] [input [output]]
DESCRIPTION
pod2test is a front-end for Pod::Tests. It generates
MakeMaker style .t testing files from embedded tests and
code examples.
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st need to make sure that
> Pod::Parser and it's clients are backwards compatible with older perls.
That's an interesting possiblity. Shouldn't be too hard to convince
Brad to have Pod::Parser let unrecognized tags off with a warning
instead of dying.
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That which stirs me, stirs everything.
-- Squonk Opera, "Spoon"
FYI If it hasn't made it to CPAN yet, its available from
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/ as usual.
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Sometimes these hairstyles are exaggerated beyond the laws of physics
- Unknown narrator spe
d values.
=item B
eqset(\@this, \@that);
Similar to eqarray(), except the order of the elements is B
important. This is again a deep check and the irrelevancy of order
applies to all levels.
=back
=head1 BUGS and CAVEATS
Other than that there's no code?
None of the function names ar
and-paste + search-and-replace.
> > ok($this eq $that);
> > ok($this eq $that, $test_name);
>
> This is implicitly promoting the call with lower diagnostic value.
You're right. (I habitually put calls in order of least arguments)
> Hey, howabout Huffman coding the API
;)
> We could allow ok($cond) for backwards compatibility, I suppose.
I can't do complete backwards compatibility with Test::ok(). Its too
weird, too undocumented and too good a name not to use.
But we've got to provide some way to ease the switch over from Test.
Maybe provide a C 4
is not the same
as "I expect $obj->is_foo to return a true value". Ditto 0 and false.
I've deliberately made routines like is_foo() return things like
"basset hounds got long ears" just to screw with tests like that.
The only way I can think of getting around that is:
it simple.
> especially if you can detect old-style ok() calls and give a helpful
> suggestion like "did you forget to convert from Test::ok to
> Testing::ok", as perl does in some other cases.
How can you tell? Testing::ok() nromally takes two arguments, so do
Only the rare three arg form will be recognizable as a mistake.
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Maybe they hooked you up with one of those ass-making magazines.
some code if I'm feeling energetic.
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Perl6 Quality Assurance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kwalitee Is Job One
BOFH excuse #180:
ether leak
. use a local __DIE__ handler inside the skip()
to trap and ignore dies. We'd have to be careful not to screw up eval
and $@ in the code we're testing (using $^S), but it will mess up any
code that relies on its own __DIE__ handler. However... since the
purpose here is not to act
really lost. Review
and coding is still going on, just down different tracks. So an
individual change might take more schedule time, but you can work in
parallel so overall work is greater.
PS I've only been using Aegis now for a few weeks. After this
contract, I might launch into rebui
uting the tests, only printing
> "ok - Message # Skipping").
That's the basic idea, but different to my current problem. As
written, running head() will cause the above block to die (even though
skip() will trap it in an eval). That means none of the ok()s will
be run, and th
On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 12:54:34AM +, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> Another possibility... use a local __DIE__ handler inside the skip()
> to trap and ignore dies. We'd have to be careful not to screw up eval
> and $@ in the code we're testing (using $^S), but it will mess
So here's some revelations I'd like to share with you when I put this
problem to the Fun With Perl mailing list.
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To: Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL
dy been fixed (with concessions for backwards
compatibility) and will be in the next version of Test.pm.
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Hey Schwern! honk, honk, honk, hon
onversation with Tony Bowden in his kitchen. It
kills two birds with one stone. You have an extremely simple,
extremely basic, extremely quick to learn testing system seperate from
one that handles all these advanced special cases we're worrying
about.
I'll post it up next.
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served that the
main problem is not dealing with these edge cases but that people hate
to write tests at all. What was needed was a dead simple module that
took all the hard work out of testing and was really, really easy to
learn. This is it.
AUTHOR
Idea by Tony Bowden, code by Michae
is
is a concession to simplicity.
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You see, in this world there's two kinds of people. Those with loaded
guns, a
(&;$) {
unless( eval { &{$_[0]}; } ) {
my $name = $_[1];
if( !defined $name and eval { require B::Deparse } ) {
$name = B::Deparse->new->coderef2text($_[0]);
}
require Carp;
Carp::confess( _fail_msg($name) );
}
return undef;
}
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..)
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/talks/ for abstracts
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BOFH excuse #308:
CD-ROM server needs recalibration
Y
This module was conceived while talking with Tony Bowden in his kitchen
one night about the problems I was having writing some really
complicated feature into the new Testing module. He observed that the
main problem is not dealing with these edge cases but that people hate
to
NOTE These are NOT well-tested on circular references. Nor am I
quite sure what will happen with filehandles.
eq_array
eq_array(\@this, \@that);
Checks if two arrays are equivalent. This is a deep check,
s
~schwern/src/B-Scan-0.01.tar.gz
It needs UNIVERSAL::exports (available from CPAN) and perl5.6.0. It
might work on 5.005_03, dunno. I had to dig into some undocumented
things in B.
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Perl6 Quality Assurance <[
h...
$ perl -cwe 'sub __ANON__::BEGIN { print 23 } BEGIN { print 42 }'
-e syntax OK
2342
Don't know where that gets you, though.
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Any sufficiently encapsulated hack is no longer a hack.
equals something that's not a built
in type should also be noted.
That actually makes the @ISA scan alot easier. If @ISA is mentioned
more than once in any package (use vars aside) its noted. The ref()
check is also simple in its basic form, although regexes will be a
problem.
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Conferences coming up! Should we throw together a QA BoF? At TPC?
At YAPC? At both?
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An 87 year old man had no sex at all befor
Right, that's BoF, not BOFH. Sorry, the Bastard Operator From Hell
book just came out and I've been meaning to order it.
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But I wore the juice!
to switch over to Test::More as the default testing module
next version anyway. This might break any existing embedded tests you
have (since Test::More::ok() behaves differently than Test::ok()).
Ummm... not sure how to ease that bit of pain.
Wait... how are you doing this at all? Pod::Tests d
On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 04:06:52AM -0400, barries wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 08:10:43AM +0100, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> > So basically you want a default name for a block of tests? I can do
> > that, basically by calling an ok() that's a wrapper around Test::ok()
>
cs.
pod2test -MTest::More=noplan Foo.pm
It will also understand the "=for testing use ..." syntax. Not sure
which one will take precedence just yet.
But there will be a default testing library and it will be Test::More.
This default should satisfy 80% of all uses and th
:Text::Termcap
Shell
Term::Cap
Term::Complete
Term::ReadLine
Time::gmtime
Time::localtime
Time::tm
User::grent
User::pwent
attributes
autouse
blib
filetest
less
open
sigtrap
unicode::distinct
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Perl6 Qualit
than
simply a compile test.
What is "reasonable" in each case is ultimately left up to the Pumpking.
I don't think these are too hard to swallow. I don't want to get any
more elaborate for the moment to avoid lengthy debate. We can always
add.
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On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 10:39:23PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Are there prizes for every regression test added? :-)
What a thoroughly wonderful idea!!! Excuse me while I get carried
away for a moment...
I, Michael G Schwern, HERE and NOW do declare that I will donate FIVE
HUNDRED UNI
ure out if a filesystem has ACLs and only run
the test in that case.
> > open
>
> See PerlIO.
See PerlIO. ;)
> > unicode::distinct
>
> Hmmm. I don't know what to do with this. Do we still want to use it?
All I know about Unicode is it means my keyboard isn't big enough
anymore.
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-- Squonk Opera, "Spoon"
nd spotting of undocumented functions.
> - (maybe) standards on version numbers?
I'll be happy if it has some sort of $VERSION at all.
The problem with trying to standardize the actual number is what
happens with things that have dual lives on CPAN? Does the version
number suddenly c
king.
>
> Always qualify your suggestions in group posts, please. The P5P may be
> used to working as an oligarchical monarchy, but the P6 groups have a
> happy democracy with only an occasional trump from above. Having abstained
> from the P5P for so long, it's been a lon
b site, right?)
If there's sufficient interest we can do a second session at YAPC::Europe.
* CPANTS is the CPAN Testing Service (currently vapor) to automate
quality assurance of CPAN. Synopsis is here:
http://archive.develooper.com/perl-qa%40perl.org/msg00148.html
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I::Cookie
> > > > CGI::Push
> > > > CGI::Switch
>
> Lincoln has no tests for these.
Hmmm, his email address has mysteriously appeared in the CC line of
this reply. How odd.
> > > The tests coming with Filter::Simple were too...simple.
> >
> > Bett
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:25:08PM -0500, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:
> > Hmmm, his email address has mysteriously appeared in the CC line of
> > this reply. How odd.
>
> You really should get your MUA exorcised.
I take my mutt out for a run every day!
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ok" or "not ok" to indicate pass or
fail. You do this with the ok() function (see below).
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You're smoother than a tunnel of shining sorrow.
tests.
- Trouble with exiting properly under 5.005_03 and 5.6.1 fixed
- Turned off buffering
* 5.004 new minimum version
- Now explicitly tested with 5.6.1, 5.6.0, 5.005_03 and 5.004
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h) and I'm considering splitting this off into a seperate
function a la Test.pm's plan().
use Test::Simple;
plan tests => 42;
while leaving the current interface in place.
Just bouncing the idea out there. Thoughts?
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ry to keep it there for a
little bit.
I'll definately keep it in the back of my mind, though.
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Perl6 Quality Assurance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kwalitee Is Job One
...and I pull out the Magnum from und
ttle environmental
differences, it still adds confidence to have ten pass reports from
ten different testers than only one. The cpan-tester's database
should be able to sift and collate this data and present it in a
non-redundant manner.
PS Is the CC too wide?
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19:59:59 BST 2001
- Fixed export problem in 5.004.
- prototyped the functions properly
* fixed bug with like() involving qr//
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all the test output. For failed tests
it will just report their numbers.
Currently, Test::Harness is not aware of test names at all. It just
ignores the extra info. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that.
As sort of a simple, half-ass solution I'm going to have Test::Har
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