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I don't think much special work would need to be done. I've heard that Test::Cmd
works pretty
well. I was reading that just a few days ago, but I can't remember where I read that
(grr ...)
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re you are still calling this in a functional
manner (instead
of TestHarnessSubClass->runtests), which means that C:\perl\sample.t will be passed as
the first
argument. The "subclassed" runtests() method will assign that value to $self and you
will have
very disappointing
ugh grief that I suspect having such a subtle difference as TEST {}
versus TEST: {}
is begging for trouble.
This does mean, though, that it won't play nicely with versions of Perl < 5.6.0. Is
that trade
off acceptable?
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1: Older versions are getting cumulative results from newer versions.
2: Everyone rushed out to check their own modules :)
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Yikes!!. Errors in:
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art of my driver script and I call it like:
grind --fast
That runs through all of my tests, but the "FAST_TESTS" environment variable is
available in the
test programs that I run.
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CPAN distributions?
It's a utility that I wrote to allow me to better manage my tests.
> If you have used it in a CPAN module,
> please let me know which one, so I can take a look.
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e me some guidance on what
I can do to
alleviate them? I'm trying to create a small test case, but this has been pesky to
narrow down.
In the meantime, I'm going to try to add signal handlers to dump stack traces and
maybe even
symlink a 'blib/lib' to the appropriate lib
/local/stow/perl-5.6.1-a633/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux-multi
/usr/local/stow/perl-5.6.1-a633/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
/usr/local/stow/perl-5.6.1-a633/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux-multi
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1
/usr/local/
FYI: I've managed to replicate this error on another ActiveState Perl linux box. The
Perl -V
information is the same, but the module list is quite a bit smaller. The only common
element that
I can find is ActiveState.
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delete it and
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I'll dig some more and see if I can come up with a workaround.
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x27;m wondering if coverage results are cumulative? If I have tests in four different
directories,
can I run the tests separately, specifying the same coverage db for each and thereby
*gradually*
accumulate this information? Are other workarounds available?
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Of course they are, if the -merge option is on. I missed that.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
Whoops,
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er, from every programmer I've talked to, has been "how can we test the data
if we don't
know what it is?" The programmes working here haven't worked with any other way of
testing so it
never occurs to them that there might be another way.
This company is doing some great
t testing strategy. If the tests
were
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foreach my $dir (@test_dirs) {
printf "\nProcessing %3d out of %3d: $dir\n\n", $count, $total;
chdir $dir;
my $command = 'perl -MDevel::Cover=-db,/home/ovid/cover_db /usr/bin/rtk_test";
system($command);
$count++;
}
There were 92 test directories in @test_d
. On the other hand, it's
ridiculously
fast, is easy to install and I'd cheerfully vote for it!
I'm trying to talk my boss into letting me poke into the internals of Devel::Cover
more, but I
doubt that will be approved. If it is, maybe I can work on this.
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If it's not the data structure being built but instead is the conversion to
Data::Dumper format,
then ignore what I say :)
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}
ok($email_text, "$mail_func should be called called");
is($email_text, $test_text, '... and the email should match the sample text');
The above, of course, is probably not as complete as you might want for production
code, but it's
roughly how I would approach th
would certainly be the best person to answer this, I rather like the idea
of an entire
Perl Mongers group becoming a hoplite. I can't help but wonder if a little friendly
competition
amongst groups might be a wonderful thing. Who can get the most modules tested?
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ecommend something like PERL_SKIP_LONG_TESTS. By
default, all tests should be run to prevent the user accidentally
forget to run some tests. If any tests are skipped, it should be by
the explicit instruction by the person running the test lest nasty
surprises crop up.
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a bit more concrete in what you are looking for, we would be better
prepared to help. Perhaps if you could send a code snippet of what you
would *like* Perl to do (and specify the file format(s) that you want
to work with).
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eate framed sites without frames, but it was for my old job and I no
longer have the code :(
I should note that this is also a very error-prone way to do things.
Fixing all of the links is more difficult than it sounds, particularly
if they have "target" attributes.
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I suppose I should eventually do something about that, but I guess it
doesn't annoy me enough to find a patch laying around somewhere.
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I've a problem in testing Inline::C. In the module
AI::NeuralNet::Simple, I do some work allocating and deallocating
memory and I've been bitten by a bug where I wasn't allocating memory
properly for one of my arra
it with our largest test suite (which takes almost two hours to run), then I'll
cheerfully
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ere struggling to figure out what to do with,
I probably
would *not* have gotten approval. As it stands, I did the upgrade months ago and
we're still
waiting to install it.
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it doesn't ring a bell. Is perl5-porters
> aware of this? Is this a known change in behaviour?
>From perl58delta:
The existing behaviour when localising tied arrays and hashes is
wrong, and will be changed in a future release, so do not rely on
the existing behaviour. See "Local
ther curious to hear about something that operates on the
op-code level
and can possibly cope with renamed variables as a result.
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--- stevan little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would also like to propose that we remove all -w flags, and convert
> them to use the warnings pragma.
Does that mean you don't want to support versions of Perl prior to 5.6? I would think
that should
be up to Tim.
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> If this will break things prior to 5.6 then I reverse my proposal and
> say that we should *not* use the warnings pragma and instead use the -w
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I always find it easier to roll back unwritten code :)
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> Hook::Lexwrap?
>
> It's what I normally use for this sort of thing, and you can
> short-circuit the original method in a pre- wrapper.
Ah, never knew about the short-circuiting. Thanks!
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I've no idea why, but when I try to install Devel::Cover, I'm getting far more failed
tests than
there are tests. Below is the summary and my perl -v.
Any ideas? I didn't see anything in the docs to indicate what the problem would be.
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with Python and was
actually doing
well with it, but I was shot down pretty quickly. xunit style testing, though it has
limitations,
is very powerful and people are quick to scoff at alternatives (at least from what I've
experienced.)
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> Now I'm confused too. None of the Test::Unit examples I've seen use
> "is", they use some form of assert.
You were looking at Test::Class code, not Test::Unit code.
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ays ago.
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Synopsis:
my $override = Sub::Override->new( foo => sub { 'overridden sub' } );
# use the new sub
$override->restore;
# original sub available
You can override multiple subs:
$override->replace('Some::sub1',
sure that would come in handy.
>
> Steve
MockObjects are great, but sometimes you just want to replace one teeny, tiny little
function
that's making life miserable. Also, MockObjects are great if the interface is OO, but
not if it's
procedural.
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ockObject.
Thanks!
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(You can later restore the subroutine, if needed)
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ir own separate files such as
>
> http://ppm.activestate.com/BuildStatus/5.8-windows/windows-5.8/Acme-1.111.txt
Side note: Not all modules have build results. I have a couple of modules with
failures, but
since they don't list why, I have no way of resolving the problem.
Che
ften accidental) that we commonly
see and your project has a much greater chance of success.
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> --- Mark Stosberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great
> > estimates?
> > What habits to develop?
And all that writing only to notice that I only peripherally touched
overlooked in maintenance, rush to
deadlines, etc. Only when comments *become* the programs they are
supposed to document will this problem be solved (and programming will
likely be much better for it.)
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Someone's surely done this before, I just can't seem to find anything
that's already implemented.
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nto the actual test to see the
implementation. It's more work than others wish to do, though. Many
programmers seem to be happy with "is red" and this seems to lead to a
greater need to actually read the test implementation (if not the
actual code.)
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If this is not already implemented, can you point to the correct
modules for which I would need to submit a patch? :)
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for improvement), but it's something that is not
immediately obvious to someone who just started testing.
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e if that
fails but many subsequent tests pass and testa # 217 and beyond fail
because the module didn't load properly. You can spend hours debugging
because you didn't see the "use_ok" failure at the top. (I speak from
extremely painful personal experience on this.)
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uot; wording to the testing guidelines. I will
confess that I was not entirely happy with my wording on the latter.
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ange paths in the code which could be causing this
(I'm wondering about the autoflush), but I was wondering if anyone has
seen this and knows how to cope with it? As you can see, I've tried
that standard binmode ':utf8' and using utf8, but to no avail.
Chee
e, as
soon as someone comes up with other layers for which we have a
definite problem, I'll shut up.
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please.
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>
> I will be out of the office starting 21/12/2004 and will not return
> unti
diff says they are the
same';
is_deeply $cloned_db, $database, '... but this hangs';
AI::Prolog is not yet on the CPAN, so if someone want's to test this,
they can grab it from
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I didn't do too much research in
. but this hangs';
AI::Prolog is not yet on the CPAN, so if someone want's to test this,
they can grab it from
http://users.easystreet.com/ovid/downloads/AI-Prolog-0.01.tar.gz
I didn't do too much research into this as eq_or_diff() solves my
problem, but we appear to have an infinit l
27;, 'foo', 'and this should be good';
I must be missing something because that didn't die. It quite happily
ran the tests. Can someone please tell me what I am missing?
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> I'm taking a software development class this semester which will
> involve
> writing extensive object-oriented code. My partner and I are trying
> to
> decide whether to use
--- Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Per this message from Schwern
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/perl-qa@perl.org/msg03122.html) on how
> to
> trigger custom behavior for individual tests:
>
> For individual failures, put a wrapper around
> Test::Builder->
;d love to
see the latter in prove and not being able to override
Test::Builder->ok is giving me fits!
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> --- Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > (http://www.mail-arch
velopment. Is there something I
am missing here?
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green and failing tests are in red. Further discussion is at
http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/22899.
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* expected: '3'
ok4 - and this one is just obvious
Looks like you failed 1 tests of 4.
With the caveat that the asterisks at the front of the lines don't
really exist, but those lines are the ones that are colored bold red in
my output.
The rest
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> > $line ))
>
> Always fails to collect the data I need because $result{number} is
> false when the extra data is being accumulated. Thus, I changed it
>
--- Ovid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And this is confusing me because the next line actually uses the
> $result{number} but the code still works.
>
> elsif (!$result{number} and my $extra = $self->_is_extra_line(
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> my $test = $total
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> Odd. I think the problem was in looking for undefined values; at
> least,
> I remember ending up with that while writing the patch and running
> the
> Test::Harness tests.
Perhap
Has there been any final decision as to what to call test names? There
was quite a bit of discussion, but I don't recall the resolution.
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haven't really used it since it's not as useful as it could be.
Once it's made useful, it's a whole 'nuther ball game :)
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What follows are the notes I have from someone else regarding the name
"comment" for what was previously considered the "label."
It's actually rather important that I have an answer for this, but I
really can't go into more detail (sorry).
Cheers,
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> It&#
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> I
> > really can't go into more detail (sorry).
>
> It'
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cause problems with? Will passing a function reference have any chance
of altering the behavior of the code (it would in Perl).
> * Is there threading in JavaScript?
Used to be "no", but I'm not sure about the latest versions.
C
ion. I suspect this means we can't be
sure exactly when an object is destroyed, though whether or not this
has any bearing on David's problem is not clear to me.
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"Class::Agreement is also the only implementation in any language to
blame failed contracts correctly", but I don't know what that means. I
also note that the link you point us to after that comment is a
citation, not something I can actually read.
Other than that, it lo
of Class::Agreement
and should definitely be hyped. Many aren't going to use
Class::Contract due to the performance hit.
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alled. Later, I realize that my methods are
deterministic so I start caching results and returning them instead of
rebuilding the array each time. I'm expecting my test suite to still
continue working but under this proposed idea, it could be a nightmare
for me to debug. Heck, when I print out the ar
#x27;re talking about two separate
things and that neither is wrong, so if someone wants to pitch a
solution rather than continue a long email chain, I'm sure we'd be
grateful :)
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e is functionally identical. I'm currently using B::Deparse to
handle this, but in the long run, I'd really prefer to be able to use
PPI::Normal and fail back to B::Deparse.
Right now, this test module is not as useful as I would like due to
caveats listed above. Suggestions welcome.
Ch
tine the same as Y routine". You know this, but I thought I'd
> kick off the discussion here.
Agreed. I think eq_code is better.
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Thanks for the reminder.
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haven't tried yet).
I won't have time to return to this problem for a couple of days, but
I'm glad to know there's a path to follow.
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Code::FreedomFighter comes).
Further, I can't use strict in that module (doing so would kill a bit
of irony). And POD coverage for a module that consists of one line of
code?
We should at least throw the poor module author's a bone and leave
Acme:: out of this.
Cheers,
Ovid
PS: Someo
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> It can't be by the same author, though, to count for is_prereq,
> right?
Nope. http://cpants.perl.org/dist/Lingua-EN-NameParse.
I think I can create a Bundle::Ovid and win this point.
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Ovid
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l likely pass the pod tests (unlike me).
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uck. How do you handle issues like
this or is this one common enough that someone knows the offending
party?
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n't get me wrong. I also want color highlighting of test code.
However, there's a lot more stuff I would like to do with the test
output (imagine a Wx extension that provides the red/green color bars
that JUnit provides). By fixing Test::Harness, we get a more general
case solution and ev
(ie. building up
> a regex
> with a bunch of qr's) it didn't really stabilize until 5.6. I recall
> this
> from Email::Find and URI::Find. But for normal use its ok in 5.5.
FYI: Deeply nesting qr// constructs can have performance impacts.
ovid $ perl -le '$x=qr{x};$y =
?node_id=503758. In short, I need to use
a different strategy to get around the problems outlined in that node
(reproduced below).
Cheers,
Ovid
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up development. It seems counter-intuitive as you're writing twice the
amou
; rarely get the tests right the first time.
It might be nice if you posted this comment to
http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=503758
If others can see that this is not an unusual problem it might help.
Cheers,
Ovid
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Hi all,
I've noticed that http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/HOP-Parser-0.01/,
amongst other modules, has no CPAN test results appearing even though
CPAN tester reports are coming in. I've seen this for other modules,
too.
Is there an announced reason for this I missed or is something dow
yet, I've attached a copy. Feedback welcome.
Internally it uses the following:
'JSON' => 1.00,
'Test::Differences' => 0.47,
'Test::Simple' => 0.62,
'Test::Tester' => 0.103,
Cheers,
Ovid
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