) has so far been my main reason for delays.
I would like to implement a simple network transport based on a
subset of Class::Publisher to provide sane client/server interaction
between the test daemon and it's clients.
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On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:36:43 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> How to check the coverage of the CGI scripts and the modules used by them ?
I would make scripts that look like
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d lure you
guys into participation in pugs.
See you there[1]!
[1] #perl6 on freenode, perl6-compiler@perl.org, or anywhere else
linked from http://pugscode.org.
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> large test runs.
>
> However, I can't tell from the docs how to run the test suite such that
> it gets involved in the process. Could someone provide an example?
>
> Thanks!
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> Mark
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ab it from
> http://www.hutchinsonsoftware.com/misc/run_tap
In this script you probably want to set $v->has_inline_css(1), so
that you can have the proper CSS stuff without mucking with another
file.
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;t through how this would work in the face of having 2 streams
> that might have meaningful data on them and aren't synchronized (STDOUT
> and STDERR).
STDERR should have data only for the user, at least in my
experience.
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It's been done =)
I'll post a link as soon as ingy replies, which usually takes a
while.. =)
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truish, as far as Devel::Cover is concerned - it might not be.
Any fix that could be thought up is inherently problematic.
Coverage reporting is not done for the pretty colors - a human reads
it, and says "OK, this is logical, get_current_coords always returns
a true value". It's
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 13:17:48 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 07:38:57PM +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote:
>
> I'll make the same argument "no broken windows" argument here that I do
> about warnings and tests: elminate all warnings, even if t
to Perl's idiomatic nature is a
harder question though.
Personally I prefer explicit meta-comments, one for each || in the
line. I think It's a bit reminiscent of Test::More's $TODO.
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ndler, and the interactive terminal output thingy will
be another.
Even in it's current hackish status Test::TAP::Model sure made
writing Test::TAP::HTMLMatrix a lot easier.
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3 days get a
buggy, outdated version when a better one is updated? Aren't the 3
days till the patch is applied enough?
CPAN.pm handles module dependencies. All Tels really has to do is
set 'follow' instead of 'ask', or use one of the tools available to
make a co
y installations work
and are reccomended
* inconsistency in the notion of the latest version of a module
being installed by a user who is not expecting a bundled
support module
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 04:22:05 +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> It still promotes:
I forgot:
* unnecessary rolling and rerolling of distribution tarballs
with no real merit but updating the bundled code causes
version space pollution, and makes users who update anno
picked up by the normal means - so now my perl and (most of) my VB code
> can be tested. Yay.
We did the same for our C++ unit testing suite. It's a bit kludgier,
since there isn't one stream per file, but a bunch of lines per test
fixture, so we use analyze_lines.
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That and unit tests for your ajax handlers should do it.
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choice?
I think it's a very good choice.
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m IPC::Run3 to IPC::Run is quite
easy. If you sever do need weird callbacks, several processes at a
time, or PTY support it should be an easy switch. However, for the
mean while IPC::Run3 is probably just what you need.
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ut that hasn't been tested) and MySQL 4.x.
Could you please please please pretty please with a cherry on top
add SQLite support?
Another, much more pretentious request is that you refactor anything
and everything you can into generic modules and put them on the
CPAN.
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nd Test::TAP::Model that
> should make it easier to gather more information.
Shlomi Fish wrote Test::Run, a Test::Harness fork and was
considering improving Test::TAP::Model as well... It might be
beneficial for you guys to help each other out if you can.
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not
signature tests are useless (i think they are, but then again i also
think i have some modules with Test::Distribution that checks
that... so I am a hypocrit ;-) the usability of these tests will be
good enough.
(I'm CCing audrey so that she'll know I'm dissing her module ;-)
-
k it's overkill.
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The *really* bad thing is that i didn't even get a
"Can't locate ok.pm in @INC"
in the output, only that some tests failed, and no further output.
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prereq_failure
etc etc.
Human *AND* machine readable.
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consolidated (the example is
actually a bit overly verbose - it could have just been
Test::TAP::HTMLMatrix->new( $model_ok, $modeL_failing )).
The resulting HTML file displays the two test runs together, with
their differences highlighted and expanded.
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nally feel that this be a bit
louder, but whatever Lincoln feels is best is his own choice.
Anyway, have fun.
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Devel-Cycle-with_code/lib/Devel/Cycle.pm
--- Devel
Oops, bad patch.
I added lib/Test/Memory/Cycle.pm as a symlink so that I don't have
to 'make' each time to run the tests.
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$ENV{TEST_POD} is off. They add kwalitee, but they usually fail
making this even more of a contest when size doesn't matter ;-)
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since TAP revisions are not
explicitly asked for... Too bad I missed talking to you at the
hackathon - if I had only thought about this we could have talked in
meat-space.
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etc), the position of the test so that we can use
backlinks, and color the test file in HTML, and potentially other
info.
It would be nice if this would be standardized.
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::Builder are much more useful this way, too.
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On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:01:47 +0300, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> FWIW, pugs' test suite outputs diags to STDOUT. Things like
> Test::TAP::Builder are much more useful this way, too.
Err, i mean Test::TAP::Model.
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at file.
If someone would like to compile a directory of licenses as a
module, with data from that license site, then this would be nice,
but Module::Build's data is just not good enough to be a fair
metric.
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ock object that doesn't actually send email
b. also test that send_email is being called when appropriate
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*cough* if it were a push parser *cough*
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Is there a function that is to this as overload::StrVal is to
stringification?
I don't see it on the CPAN yet so I figured I'd ask.
The feature is übersweet, and Data::Lazy should make good use of it
too. You++!
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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 22:51:43 -0800, Joshua ben Jore wrote:
> On 2/25/07, Yuval Kogman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Is there a function that is to this as overload::StrVal is to
> >stringification?
>
> No. blessed() doesn't lie to you and I don't change t
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 22:34:15 -0800, chromatic wrote:
> Why not, I already have half of the other stuff in UNIVERSAL
Just don't tell Adam.
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I predict that the next anti duck perl idiom is going to be:
eval { $x->UNIVERSAL::can("can") }
to determine "true blessedness"
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erence, the empty string otherwise.
I suppose
if ( length( ref $x ) ) { }
is a better test, but when have you ever seen that? I don't think
i'll start using it.
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lities of a value it's because i'm writing a
dispatch table wrapper that will look for a handler based on the
class or something like that.
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bviously doing it for that intended
behavior.
What is the alternative? How much "broken" perl code do you intend
to fix?
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l indifference - there's lots of code that needs to
care a little bit in order to be more flexible, not less. I can post
examples of what I mean if you like.
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 13:50:58 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> Please reconsider autobox.
While I second that for the aforementioned reasons I have an off
topic one too:
That's the only way it'd get accepted. Something that devious has to
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should deduct kwalitee IMHO.
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 18:26:26 -0400, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> uses_version_control sounds more like lacks_manifest_skip_file which
> should deduct kwalitee IMHO.
Hmm... reading into the other metrics, it seems like you were
kidding. My bad ;-)
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s ;-)
It was def. a good one =)
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form controller. The difference is that the
> two views actually inherit their behavior from the controller and can be
> used interchangeably with it.
Eh, how?
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it as separation of
concerns with duck typing in the model and view, and ugliness kept
contained in the controllers, IMHO not much to do with
inheritence/chaining at
all, but i guess that could work.
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xtends works well,
if you want it for real code I guess you could cannibalize that, but
I doubt you'll find this as a pattern anywhere else because most
languages that have a pattern naming culture lack the flexbility to
do these tricks
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ber of
> mutatable entities in a program - which is generally a kwalitee and perhaps
> even quality win.
I've had very good results with that approach. Class::Workflow's
instance object is perhaps the most prominent example, but lots of
meta-meta-meta-meta work in Moose land's
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 23:08:40 +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote:
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> On 2 Apr 2007, at 22:47, Yuval Kogman wrote:
> >>I explicitly don't want $wider and $mono to be /clones/ of $base - I want
> >>them to /be/
If anybody is interested in helping the project commit access and
pause comaint is readily available.
The only caveat is that the relative fame is diminished due to the
already long list of authors ;-)
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> Assuming nobody has already volunteered I'll wave my hand. I'll take
> a look at it sometime in the next few days if that's OK.
Awesome =)
I'm nothingmuch on #perl-qa if you'd like to poke
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and the variable replaces the subexpression. The variables live
outside the new closure, which closes over them. The subexpressions
are also deparsed individually.
Then on failure the subexpression variable hash thingy could just be
dumped.
Thoughts?
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this should work:
sub list_ctx { return wantarray }
( list_ctx ? @{ $deparsed{blah} = [ $subexpr ] } : $deparsed{blah} =
$subexpr } )
but only as an rvalue (assigning to an ? : where one subexpr is
listy and other is scalary is a compile time error IIRC).
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