Re: Help spreading Test

2002-09-19 Thread Barrie Slaymaker
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 07:22:04AM -0700, David Wheeler wrote: > On Friday, September 13, 2002, at 06:25 AM, Johan Vromans wrote: > > >Tchk. I think it's quite nice and powerful to be able to download an > >arbitrary module's .tar.gz and get it going with the simple "perl > >Makefile.PL; make al

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-09-13 Thread Johan Vromans
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And if you're not using a CPAN shell every module install is going > to be a chore anyway. Tchk. I think it's quite nice and powerful to be able to download an arbitrary module's .tar.gz and get it going with the simple "perl Makefile.PL; make all

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-08-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 09:32:10PM -0700, chromatic wrote: > Perhaps we are looking at this from the wrong direction. Instead of > installing bundled modules, perhaps a shell should be able to specify that > certain dependencies are available only for testing. That way, users > wouldn't neces

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-08-28 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 28 July 2002 02:52, Johan Vromans wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:19:51 -0700, Johan Vromans wrote: > > This idea appeals to me, but I have thought of two drawbacks. The first > > is minor, and it's that I don't think Test::Builder should have special > > logic for installation. It

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-31 Thread David Wheeler
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 10:15 PM, Johan Vromans wrote: > My hesitation in doing this is that the module does not need Test::* > for its operation, just for the IVP. Given what the Test::* modules are for, I think that this is common. And since they're small and won't waste much in the

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-31 Thread Johan Vromans
Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's probably easier to just make it a normal prerequisite. My hesitation in doing this is that the module does not need Test::* for its operation, just for the IVP. But I tend to agree that making any special provisions for this purpose is proba

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Sat, Jul 27, 2002 at 09:55:38AM -0700, chromatic wrote: > > One of the problems I have with using Test::Builder is that I want to > > distribute packages to systems that do not (necessarily) have a decent version > > of Test::* installed. Now it is easy to include a copy of a suitable version >

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-30 Thread Johan Vromans
Janek Schleicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A good solution from my point of view would be, > if you could use Makefile.PL to do this job, > perhaps similar to > 'PREREQ_PM' => { ... } > a > 'PREREQ_TEST_PM' => { ... } > statement, > warning the user that the test can't be done without a speci

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-30 Thread Janek Schleicher
Chromatic wrote at Sat, 27 Jul 2002 18:55:38 +0200: > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:19:51 -0700, Johan Vromans wrote: > >> One of the problems I have with using Test::Builder is that I want to distribute >packages to >> systems that do not (necessarily) have a decent version of Test::* installed. Now

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-28 Thread Johan Vromans
chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:19:51 -0700, Johan Vromans wrote: > This idea appeals to me, but I have thought of two drawbacks. The first is > minor, and it's that I don't think Test::Builder should have special logic for > installation. It seems that this would

Re: Help spreading Test

2002-07-27 Thread chromatic
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:19:51 -0700, Johan Vromans wrote: > One of the problems I have with using Test::Builder is that I want to > distribute packages to systems that do not (necessarily) have a decent version > of Test::* installed. Now it is easy to include a copy of a suitable version > of Tes

Help spreading Test

2002-07-26 Thread Johan Vromans
Folks, One of the problems I have with using Test::Builder is that I want to distribute packages to systems that do not (necessarily) have a decent version of Test::* installed. Now it is easy to include a copy of a suitable version of Test::Builder with the package (provided it is not too big).