[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R Ward) writes:
[speaking at conferences]
> How do you get your name on the program? Don't you need to have
> already established your name recognition first? I'd love to do that.
Submit proposals to the conferences. Of course, it might be easier to
get accepted if
William R Ward wrote:
> Besides, my "day job" is very important to me, and I'm not willing to
> sacrifice that.
My day job sacrificed me, so I threw myself in the deep end. :-)
> How do you get your name on the program? Don't you need to have
> already established your name recognition first
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Scott) writes:
> At 03:27 PM 7/17/02 -0700, William R Ward wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benjamin A. Okopnik) writes:
> > > That's why they call it "being an enterpreneur" rather than "having a
> > > steady secure job". [...snip...]
> >
> >A business does not have to be fu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
> > "William" == William R Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> William> Well, the way I see it there are the big names like Randal Schwartz,
> William> community colleges, and a few individuals like me. I haven't seen
> William> much else.
>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Faught) writes:
> William R Ward wrote:
> > Sure, if it's made worth my while financially. But I'm also working a
> > full time job, so I can't do it often (I have to take vacation time to
> > do it).
>
> I have a colleague who insists on working full-time while doing
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>... be sure you're also carrying a pen so you can
> write on the back of it "Perl training at your location" or whatever.
> Emphasize what you do, so it's not just a bizcard for their pile at
> home.
That's a great idea. I try to make a note on the back when I get
so
> "Danny" == Danny Faught <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Randal> It's not enough to simply give a brilliant talk at a conference. The
Randal> people that hang around afterward are mostly just tech-heads, usually.
Danny> I'm told that doing a full-day tutorial is much better than a track
Danny>
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
> Speaking at conferences is necessary to establish a reputation and to
> practice your craft, but it's not really a great market for new
> customers, unless you make sure you're *really* visible during the
> rest of the conference.
I often get involved behind the scen
At 10:31 AM 7/18/02 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>Yeah, everything I loathed about sales when I was a simple grunt
>technician, I now find I must do to sell Stonehenge. Schmooze. Throw
>parties.
And you are bearing up extremely well under the strain, I must say :-)
--
Peter Scott
Pacific S
> "Danny" == Danny Faught <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Danny> Most of what I've been doing for the last six months or so is just
Danny> conference tutorials. It doesn't pay very well, but I've been told it's
Danny> a good way to market myself for more serious gigs. And of course I get
Danny>
> "William" == William R Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
William> Well, the way I see it there are the big names like Randal Schwartz,
William> community colleges, and a few individuals like me. I haven't seen
William> much else.
Everything is proceeding according to my plan...
:-)
The
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 03:27:04PM -0700, William R Ward wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benjamin A. Okopnik) writes:
> > That's why they call it "being an enterpreneur" rather than "having a
> > steady secure job". [...snip...]
>
> A business does not have to be full-time to be a business.
It does
William R Ward wrote:
> Sure, if it's made worth my while financially. But I'm also working a
> full time job, so I can't do it often (I have to take vacation time to
> do it).
I have a colleague who insists on working full-time while doing training
on the side. I honestly don't understand ho
At 03:27 PM 7/17/02 -0700, William R Ward wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benjamin A. Okopnik) writes:
> > That's why they call it "being an enterpreneur" rather than "having a
> > steady secure job". [...snip...]
>
>A business does not have to be full-time to be a business.
>
>Your tone is completely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benjamin A. Okopnik) writes:
> That's why they call it "being an enterpreneur" rather than "having a
> steady secure job". [...snip...]
A business does not have to be full-time to be a business.
Your tone is completely inappropriate here. I sure hope you don't act
this abrasi
On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 12:12:44PM -0700, William R Ward wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Faught) writes:
> >
> > Are you willing to travel? If so, that opens up many more opportunities
> > for the 2-5 day full-day type of course setup.
>
> Sure, if it's made worth my while financially.
I t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Faught) writes:
> William R Ward wrote:
> > I've taught for the local community college for a couple of years now,
> > but this is the first time I've done it under my own flag so to speak.
> > I talked to a couple of training providers around here, but they seem
> > to al
William R Ward wrote:
> I've taught for the local community college for a couple of years now,
> but this is the first time I've done it under my own flag so to speak.
> I talked to a couple of training providers around here, but they seem
> to all be completely Windows-oriented and not interested
At 04:32 PM 7/16/02 -0700, William R Ward wrote:
>Well, the way I see it there are the big names like Randal Schwartz,
>community colleges, and a few individuals like me. I haven't seen
>much else.
You're omitting a whole set of training houses that teach so many
things they have room for Perl:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Faught) writes:
> William R Ward wrote:
> > I just had my first real training class, and I'm trying to arrange for
> > more. But I need advice on how to reach potential customers. What
> > are some suggestions you might be able to offer?
>
> Are you arranging public c
William R Ward wrote:
> I just had my first real training class, and I'm trying to arrange for
> more. But I need advice on how to reach potential customers. What
> are some suggestions you might be able to offer?
Are you arranging public courses yourself? I decided that was way too
much ris
I just had my first real training class, and I'm trying to arrange for
more. But I need advice on how to reach potential customers. What
are some suggestions you might be able to offer? Here's what I've got
so far:
* My web site is at http://www.bayview.com/training/ if you would like
to se
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