Re: Docs and releases

2004-02-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think getting the docs better will be an aggressive goal for the next release. How's this all looking now we're in Feb? There is still a lot of outdated (or unimplemented?) stuff in assembly related docs. WRT release :) ,--[ p6i

Re: Docs and releases

2004-02-03 Thread Tim Bunce
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 09:23:58AM +0100, Leopold Toetsch wrote: Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think getting the docs better will be an aggressive goal for the next release. How's this all looking now we're in Feb? There is still a lot of outdated (or unimplemented?) stuff

Re: Docs and releases

2004-02-02 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:33:57AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 11:52 AM + 1/12/04, Tim Bunce wrote: Has a date been set for the next release? Nope. I suppose we could shoot for another holiday release, if someone's got a good february one. Are the docs (especially the PDDs) upto

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-20 Thread Paul Cochrane
* Harry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040118 05:06]: --- Paul Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I don't think you're going crazy. The funny thing is that about a three weeks ago my cvs checkout worked fine. I did a cvs update, and then Configure.pl didn't work[1], so I re-checkedout the

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-20 Thread Paul Cochrane
* Andrew Dougherty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040120 02:19]: Wordsize errors are one common type of error that show up on PPC (and SPARC) more readily than on x86, due to byte-order issues. When reporting problems, it's often a good idea to include the ./myconfig file in the parrot build

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-19 Thread Andrew Dougherty
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Paul Cochrane wrote: This also gives me an opportunity to mention to anyone with more time (and possibly ability) than me, that parrot is having problems on LinuxPPC. The specifics are: - parrot hangs on t/op/arithmetics when doing make test - make gives an

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-14 Thread Robin Redeker
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 05:01:41PM +, Harry Jackson wrote: If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. Well, here i speak ;-) I have some (minor) skills in C, Perl, Networking, compiling, and other stuff. I also downloaded Parrot some months ago,

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Harry Jackson
Paul Cochrane wrote: If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. I'll admit to being a shy lurker... (and have rudimentary C knowledge, but a bit low on the elbow grease atm :-/) Another one, we are getting more and more of them pop up from all over

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Jeffrey Dik
Ooh, ooh, a chance to leave shy lurker status behind and work on one of the coolest software projects out there, count me in. I have some rudimentary C skills and I'm sure there's some elbow grease around here somewhere... Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 05:58:18PM +, Harry Jackson wrote:

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Vishal Vatsa
On Monday 12 January 2004 17:58, Harry Jackson wrote: Robert Eaglestone wrote: Yes, I'm a shy lurker. Are there any more, don't be shy, there might be a lot of barking but no one bites at least I have not had anyone bite me _yet_. Is there anyone on the list who wants to help but does not

RE: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Solinski, Mark
I'm also a shy lurker but would love to help in any way I can. I have twenty+ years experience in C/C++/OOP. Is there a reasonable place to start? Mark Solinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Harry Jackson
Mark Solinski wrote: I'm also a shy lurker but would love to help in any way I can. I have twenty+ years experience in C/C++/OOP. Is there a reasonable place to start? Bloody hell man, what took you so long ;-). With that amount of experience, take your pick. http://www.parrotcode.org/todo

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Vladimir Lipsky
Well, there is always up-to-date documentation, your debugger output ... 0x4C56 Who says that the copy-paste antipattern is bad?

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-13 Thread Matt Diephouse
Harry Jackson wrote: Harry Jackson If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. Alright, that's me too. I've been lurking for a couple years, actually, and have only made one post on perl6-language, I think. I just downloaded parrot again last week after

Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Tim Bunce
Has a date been set for the next release? Are the docs (especially the PDDs) upto date on best practices? If not, will that be a goal for the next release? Tim.

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has a date been set for the next release? No, not yet. But I can imagine to have a release in February. It of course depends on progress WRT objects and threads. Are the docs (especially the PDDs) upto date on best practices? No. Not much better then as of

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 11:52 AM + 1/12/04, Tim Bunce wrote: Has a date been set for the next release? Nope. I suppose we could shoot for another holiday release, if someone's got a good february one. Are the docs (especially the PDDs) upto date on best practices? Alas not, no. If not, will that be a goal for

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:33:57AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 11:52 AM + 1/12/04, Tim Bunce wrote: Has a date been set for the next release? Nope. I suppose we could shoot for another holiday release, if someone's got a good february one. Valentines day? :-) [ On a whim I thought

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 4:47 PM + 1/12/04, Tim Bunce wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 09:33:57AM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 11:52 AM + 1/12/04, Tim Bunce wrote: Has a date been set for the next release? Nope. I suppose we could shoot for another holiday release, if someone's got a good february one.

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Harry Jackson
Tim Bunce wrote: The developers _of_ parrot need to keep in mind the needs of those poised on the edge of developing _in_ parrot. I think that there are a lot of people who would help but the learning curve seems to high. I for one am finding it a pretty steep curve at the moment and am always

RE: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Robert Eaglestone
Harry Jackson wrote: I think that there are a lot of people who would help but the learning curve seems too high. I for one am finding it a pretty steep curve at the moment and am always worried about making an ass of myself when posting. I decided to hell with it, if you're ain't in you

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Harry Jackson
Robert Eaglestone wrote: Yes, I'm a shy lurker. Are there any more, don't be shy, there might be a lot of barking but no one bites at least I have not had anyone bite me _yet_. Is there anyone on the list who wants to help but does not know where to start. If you are really that shy email me

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 5:01 PM + 1/12/04, Harry Jackson wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: and am always worried about making an ass of myself when posting. Dammit, and here I was trying to lead by example. It's OK! :) Smoothing the path for newcommers, of both types, is very important. I spent quite a bit of time

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Michael Scott
I'm currently building some docs related modules which will allow us to create an html tree from the pod, inline stuff included. I cleaned up all the pod errors last week and was going to report on that but got sidetracked when I realised that POD::Checker diverged somewhat from Perl's own pod

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Simon Glover
Well, one thing that people can contribute that doesn't require much (if any) knowledge of the internals is tests (whether in PASM, PIR, or one of the other languages that run on top of Parrot). Tests that uncover bugs are particularly helpful! Simon

Tests! Tests are your friend! (was Re: Docs and releases)

2004-01-12 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 1:26 PM -0500 1/12/04, Simon Glover wrote: Well, one thing that people can contribute that doesn't require much (if any) knowledge of the internals is tests (whether in PASM, PIR, or one of the other languages that run on top of Parrot). Tests that uncover bugs are particularly helpful!

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Herbert Snorrason
Harry Jackson wrote: If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. Poit. That's me.

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Harry Jackson
Dan Sugalski wrote: At 5:01 PM + 1/12/04, Harry Jackson wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: and am always worried about making an ass of myself when posting. Dammit, and here I was trying to lead by example. It's OK! :) Smoothing the path for newcommers, of both types, is very important. I spent

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Matt Fowles
Harry~ You have outlined my situation exactly. I completely agree. Matt Harry Jackson wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: The developers _of_ parrot need to keep in mind the needs of those poised on the edge of developing _in_ parrot. I think that there are a lot of people who would help but the

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Kevin Smith
Ping. One quiet lurker here. I'd like to help out, but not really sure where to start. Given Dan's suggestion, I think I might start looking at some more abusive-type tests. Destruction and dissection can be fun. I'd be happy to help out in other newbie-type ways, too. --Kevin Harry Jackson

Re: Docs and releases

2004-01-12 Thread Paul Cochrane
If there are any shy lurkers out there please speak now or forever hold your peace. I'll admit to being a shy lurker... (and have rudimentary C knowledge, but a bit low on the elbow grease atm :-/) This also gives me an opportunity to mention to anyone with more time (and possibly ability)