piece of work, really excellent!
Richard
Mark Lentczner wrote:
Friends -
Just a note to let you know that the third version of the Periodic
Table of the Operators is complete:
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic/
Thanks again to all those who helped me dive deep into perl6
Friends -
Just a note to let you know that the third version of the Periodic
Table of the Operators is complete:
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic/
Thanks again to all those who helped me dive deep into perl6.
- MtnViewMark
Mark Lentczner
http://www.ozonehouse.com
[Rod == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:10:34 -0500]
Jared I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode
Jared operator would save keystrokes, for instance.
Rod That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you
Rod are relying on a special command in your
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 03:40:27AM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote:
What advantages have to use characters not in standard keyboards? Isn't
it a little scary?
Well, what do you consider a 'standard' keyboard? The zip
operator/Yen sign probably appears on most keyboards in Japan, but on
very few in
[Pedro == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:40:27 +0200]
Pedro What advantages have to use characters not in standard
Pedro keyboards?
Flexibility.
Stylistic choice.
There is More Than One Way To Do It.
Power.
Expressiveness.
Everything that makes Perl good.
Pedro Isn't it a little
Jared Rhine wrote:
I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode
operator would save keystrokes, for instance.
That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you are
relying on a special command in your editor of choice, yes, the ASCII
equiv is fewer keystrokes. If,
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:33:34PM +, Smylers wrote:
Gabriel Ebner writes:
Joe Gottman wrote:
The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥).
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keyboards
don't
Dan Sugalski wrote:
That doesn't, in my experience, work reliably, and it seems worst when
dealing with unicode and some of the other extended encodings. (The GB
stuff's bad too) May well be some bizarre interaction between OS X's
terminal and screen, but I regularly end up with sessions that,
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
On Tue 08 Jun 2004 12:35, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
But
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
My console can be any of several platforms - in the last couple of weeks
it has been a Linux box, a Windows PC, a Mac, a Sun workstation, and a
real vt320 attached to a Sun. My mail sits on a hosted Linux box. To
read it, I
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
But when I'm using a
terminal session, I have found that the only practical way of getting
consistent behaviour
On Tue 08 Jun 2004 12:35, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
But when I'm using a
terminal session, I have
Tim Bunce skribis 2004-06-08 11:30 (+0100):
I can recommend PuTTY for windows. Secure, small[1], fast, featureful
and free: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[1] So small it easily fits on a floppy. I keep a copy on my USB memory drive.
So small that even on modem lines, you
Dan Sugalski wrote:
Nope. Screen doesn't handle shifting terminal types,
I don't get that. The screen server is a virtual terminal, which tells its
clients it is of type 'screen', and the screen client translates that to
whatever terminal you're using.
I can connect to my screen server on my
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Gabriel Ebner wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
Nope. Screen doesn't handle shifting terminal types,
I don't get that. The screen server is a virtual terminal, which tells its
clients it is of type 'screen', and the screen client translates that to
whatever terminal you're
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
Since you've added ? and ? to the list above, I'll add them as well:
What's so hard to type about the question mark? And what's so
significant that you added it twice?
OK, so I know that you really meant to type some bizarre
On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote:
This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't
need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be
able to read it. And I can't.
Well, for one thing, just because your email program doesn't let
Mark J. Reed wrote:
On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote:
This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't
need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be
able to read it. And I can't.
Well, for one thing, just because your email program
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
I assume you mean with a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have ¥.
You can use zip if you want ASCII. Otherwise, it depends. But Yen is
Unicode codepoint U+00A5 = 165 decimal, so you can type it in Windows as ALT +
numpad 0165 even
On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 19:04, Gabriel Ebner wrote:
Hello,
Joe Gottman wrote:
The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥).
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. Second, you're not
supposed to. ¥ is a shorthand for zip,
Hello,
Mark J. Reed wrote:
I assume you mean with a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have .
Oops, must have mistakenly picked an US-International chart, sorry.
Gabriel.
--
Gabriel Ebner - reverse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Aaron Sherman wrote:
Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it.
Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart.
Second, you're not supposed to.
So why has it been chosen then?
is a shorthand for zip,
Good to know.
and if you don't want to use the funky one-character
Or for the few Perl emacs people out there:
C-x 8 Y
C-x 8
C-x 8
Paul
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 10:27 am, Gabriel Ebner wrote:
Hello,
Aaron Sherman wrote:
Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it.
Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart.
Second, you're not supposed
On 2004-06-01 at 14:10:08, Paul Seamons wrote:
Or for the few Perl emacs people out there:
C-x 8 Y
C-x 8
C-x 8
I suspect there are more than a few. I don't think there's anything
constitutional about folks who like Emacs that prevents them from liking
Perl or vice-versa. Even though
So is he going to backport his representational ideography to
the operators of perl 5.8?
Darren Duncan wrote:
Mark Lentczner has just (on May 26/28) created a useful/humerous
graphical diagram of the 100+ operators in the Perl 6 language, designed
to look like the periodic table of atomic
Hello,
Joe Gottman wrote:
The zip operator is now the Yen sign ().
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
Gabriel.
--
Gabriel Ebner - reverse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It probably depends on what nationality that keyboard is for. If its
Japanese, you probably won't have a problem ;-).
But for the rest of us, use Vi and ctrl-KYe (or spacezipspace).
Dave.
Gabriel Ebner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Joe Gottman wrote:
Gabriel Ebner writes:
Joe Gottman wrote:
The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥).
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keyboards
don't have a yen symbol on them either.
In 'Vim' I got lucky in guessing
Smylers wrote:
Gabriel Ebner writes:
Joe Gottman wrote:
The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥).
How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this?
On Windows you can probably press Alt Gr then type in some number.
Close. AltGr-Minus. If you're using the
Thanks for all the comments. I started this thing as a goof, but I can
already see that it will serve dual purposes. Presenting information
in such a form can lead people to further insights and questions.
Deborah Pickett's comments in this thread are an example. (For some
real inspiring
Not to beat a dead horse, but
I've updated the Periodic table with almost all the changes that people
here sent me, as well as reading a few more threads and references.
This will be the last update for some time. I'll be uploading a
version to cafepress so people can get posters,
-Original Message-
From: Mark Lentczner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Periodic Table of the Operators
Not to beat a dead horse, but
I've updated the Periodic table with almost all the changes that people
Mark Lentczner wrote:
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design
of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well
over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few
months to get around to drawing it...
Mark Lentczner wrote:
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design
of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well
over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few
months to get around to drawing it...
Hello,
Mark Lentczner wrote:
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html
What's periodic about it?
Otherwise, _nice_ table.
Gabriel.
--
Gabriel Ebner - reverse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Lentczner wrote:
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current design
of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators - well
over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a few
months to get around to drawing it...
Le Thu, May 27, 2004 at 12:34:32AM +0200, le valeureux mongueur Gabriel Ebner a dit:
Hello,
Mark Lentczner wrote:
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html
What's periodic about it?
We hope it will be periodically updated. :)
Otherwise, _nice_ table.
indee.d
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current
design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators -
well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a
few months to get around to drawing it...
Mark Lentczner writes:
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current
design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators -
well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a
few months to get around to drawing it...
Luke Palmer writes:
Mark Lentczner writes:
All -
Awhile back, I saw Larry Wall give a short talk about the current
design of Perl 6. At some point he put up a list of all the operators -
well over a hundred of them! I had a sudden inspiration, but it took a
few months to get
LOL! That's fantastic! We _must_ put it on dev.perl.org.
Thank you. You are welcome to put it on dev.perl.org.
I can't help myself but to correct it, though :-)
Please do. It was clear that many discussions happened after the TAKE
6 list, my primary reference. I will be happy to update it in
ML == Mark Lentczner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ML http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/blog/code/PeriodicTable.html
very cool!
bugs: , lt say greater. same in reverse for , gt
the fonts for the little things in the corners could be a bit larger or
clearer.
s/anonamizer/anonymizer/
a few other
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