Re: lexical variables made default

2000-08-02 Thread Ted Ashton
would remove the 'my' for my variables and add a 'dynamic $variable' for the ones which need it, reaching well over the 80%. Just my guess, Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-02 Thread Ted Ashton
other kind of singular whatzitz is a reasonable thing. Think of it as singular and plural nouns and verbs if that helps :-) (and yes, I know that analogy doesn't fit very well, so save your fingers on that one :-). Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist

Re: RFC: multiline comments

2000-08-02 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Michael Mathews, Ted Ashton wrote: The qc() proposal fits in well with the Perl "look-and-feel" and seems pretty comfortable to me. If there are concerns about obfuscatory potential, a use strict 'comments' could require that the qc( ope

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-02 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Jon Ericson, Ted Ashton wrote: Thus it was written in the epistle of Tom Christiansen, Nope. A filehandle is a singular whatzitz. It thus mandatory takes the singular prefix; to wit, $. What's next? Integer and float and complex and string

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-02 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Tom Christiansen, What about regexes? $foo = qr/blech/; Should that be /foo instead? :-) Notice how even objects use $, not something else. *chuckle* Ok, point conceded. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist

Re: RFC: Highlander Variables

2000-08-03 Thread Ted Ashton
icult when trying to decide where to be in a system one is not writing oneself which will be learned by students one is not teaching. In this case, I *think* that the learning curve is worth the advantages of having the symbols we have, but I am only one voice. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-03 Thread Ted Ashton
? The confusion would cleared up considerably, I think, if they didn't return a value. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == One of the endlessly alluring aspects of mathematics

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
sad to see them go. After all, that's one of the cool things--no other language I've ever seen uses the latter at all and, well, it's one of the things which makes Perl fun. Has having $ and its riends caused trouble for you? Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
prudent to make while (chomp(ARGV)) work like while (ARGV) (with the expected difference, of course). After all, "while (ARGV)" is special-cased already. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist

Re: RFC 17 (v1) Organization and Rationalization of Perl

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
got its name from the other orm and that orm *worked*! Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == If we possessed a thorough knowledge of all the parts of the seed of any animal

Re: RFC 24 (v1) Semi-finite (lazy) lists

2000-08-04 Thread Ted Ashton
much. Ted "really glad we have DC on our side-- he'd be downright dangerous elsewhere :-)" Ashton -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == There are three kinds of

Re: perl 6 requirements

2000-08-01 Thread Ted Ashton
o this kid even if it has grown up a little :-). Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == For God's sake, please give it up. Fear it no less than the sensual passion, because it

Re: RFC: Filehandle type-defining punctuation

2000-08-07 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Bart Lateur, On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:03:28 -0400, Ted Ashton wrote: If we've decided that chomp isn't going to return the clippings, would it not seem prudent to make while (chomp(ARGV)) work like while (ARGV) You mean, like, the -l command

Re: RFC 58 (v1) Cchomp() changes.

2000-08-07 Thread Ted Ashton
() is handed an empty line, it will return a defined value. Only at the point at which FILE returns undef will the while cease. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == How can

Re: RFC 58 (v1) Cchomp() changes.

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
that. :-), Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == Do not worry about your difficulties in mathematics, I assure you that mine are greater

Re: default $/ (was Re: RFC: println())

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
private $/. i like the ability to set global defaults here. Hear, hear! Chomp (which I still consider a useful critter :-), needs a $/ sort of thing to know what to chomp and the lines it chomps may or may not have come from a given file. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern

Re: Things to remove

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
(chomp(FH)) { ... } work like while (FH) { chomp; ... } Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == Most of the fundamental ideas of science are essentially simple, and may

Re: RFC 58 (v1) Cchomp() changes.

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
filehandle has their's defaulted to something reasonable. I think that the point of the global $/ and $\ was to define "reasonable." Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist

Re: RFC 58 (v1) Cchomp() changes.

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Brust, Corwin, From: Ted Ashton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I don't particularly mind the last two - in fact they add some benefits (like not modifying the original), which are nice to have. However, that first one, frankly, drives me nuts. Please

Re: RFC 58 (v1) Cchomp() changes.

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
chomp(): does as above, but using the second argument (which is a scalar, not a regex) Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == An expert problem solver must

Re: Error handling

2000-08-08 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Peter Scott, I do not want a language designed by a committee, or even a democracy. This is art, not politics. Preach on, brother! Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University

Re: RFC 78 (v1) Improved Module Versioning And Searching

2000-08-09 Thread Ted Ashton
uses the DB package. What happens if someone loads SmallProf and DProf and the perl debugger all at once? Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == Mathematics is not only real

Re: Infinite lists (was Re: RFC 24 (v1) Semi-finite (lazy) lists)

2000-08-09 Thread Ted Ashton
-), Ted P.S. Seems to me that while putting hooks in the core to allow this sort of thing might be worthwhile, infinite lists are not likely to be commonly used and so probably should go into a module. -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern

Re: RFC 78 (v1) Improved Module Versioning And Searching

2000-08-10 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Steve Simmons, On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 05:53:44PM -0400, Ted Ashton wrote: I'll take that as my cue ;-). Ah, nothing like a man who knows when to pick up his cues. :-) *shudder* This whole business is getting pretty scary . . . [[ discussion

Re: RFC 109 (v1) Less line noise - let's get rid of @%

2000-08-15 Thread Ted Ashton
. But it doesn't seem so difficult now. Why do folks feel that if they have to put out a little effort to learn something that it's a horrible thing? /minor rant Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University

Re: RFC 99 (v2) Standardize ALL Perl platforms on UNIX epoch

2000-08-15 Thread Ted Ashton
. A consistent epoch would fix this. Well then, why 1970? If we're defining our own, why buy into one which is scheduled to blow up in 2038? Why not at the very least start with Jan 1, 2K? Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University

Re: OT: pronouncing www (was: Re: ... as a term)

2000-08-24 Thread Ted Ashton
the new ..." =Austin Just to be absolutely certain, could you say that again, using www.perl.com as the example? Thanks, Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University ==

Re: Really auto autoloaded modules

2001-02-01 Thread Ted Ashton
nflict. I don't think we want a mechanism which, when I type parm() (meaning to have typed param()) goes out and searches CPAN, downloads and installs Blarg::Foo which has parm() defined and use it :-). Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys,

Re: Larry's Apocalypse 1

2001-04-05 Thread Ted Ashton
t; would suffice for normal code and one could just perl6 -e 'whatever;' for one-liners. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == Mathematics is the most exact science, and

Re: if3 then else otherwise ...

2001-07-30 Thread Ted Ashton
) shoud result in the desired syntax. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == How happy the lot of the mathematician. He is judged solely by his peers, and the standard is so high

Re: if3 then else otherwise ...

2001-07-30 Thread Ted Ashton
and, wait for it, produce bytecode which would run on the Python interpreter--except more slowly than actually using Python ;-). Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Info Sys, Southern Adventist University == Computers

Re: General Feelings on Apoc 3

2001-10-05 Thread Ted Ashton
to the missing bracket rather than have it attempt to run the code, assuming that the ; is really *not* the end of the statement. 'Course, it has long been held that *any* random sequence of characters is a valid Perl program, and this makes that a little more true. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL

Re: Apropos of nothing...

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Ashton
Thus it was written in the epistle of Piers Cawley, In the following code fragment, what context is foo() in? @ary[0] = foo() Scalar, I would think. Just my guess, Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | From the Tom Swifty collection: Southern Adventist University| Multiplication

Re: Apoc4: The loop keyword

2002-01-21 Thread Ted Ashton
. While it might make the language simpler, the proliferation of left-over lexicals seems sloppy. .. . . if not to say downright ugly. The boolean of an if or a while is more a part of the inner stuff than the outer. What's the chance that it could be considered so? Ted -- Ted Ashton

Re: Apoc 4: The skip keyword

2002-01-30 Thread Ted Ashton
over the following rather than skip to the following), but I find nobreak also a bit strange. How about proceed? Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | From the Tom Swifty collection: Southern Adventist University| I'm knitting a sweater for my guppy, said Deep thought to be found

Re: Continuations for fun and profit

2002-07-08 Thread Ted Ashton
which are related to the continuation. It doesn't just save all data generally or $foo (from the example) would never really get decremented. Ted -- Ted Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | From the Tom Swifty collection: Southern Adventist University| The bank doesn't even want me as a Deep thought