Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
Hi Apocalypses and Exegesis are not an 'official' specification for Perl6, I mean, they are subject to change. Is there any idea when will we have a freeze on the syntax and features for perl6? Thanks, Alberto

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
The question is simple, and Dan can have the same problem (or him or Larry). I am thinking on a Perl 6 book in portuguese (maybe only a tutorial... but who knows). But that means I must write something which will work :-) Of course to write it will take many time, which can give Larry time to

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Sugalski
On 14 Aug 2003, Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: Hi Apocalypses and Exegesis are not an 'official' specification for Perl6, I mean, they are subject to change. Is there any idea when will we have a freeze on the syntax and features for perl6? Sometime after perl 5's syntax and features

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Lazzaro
On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 07:00 AM, Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 14:49, Simon Cozens wrote: Just a hint: don't try writing it and revising it as the language changes. I wrote a Perl 6 chapter for a book in December and it is now almost unusable due to the

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Iain Truskett
* Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões [15 Aug 2003 00:36]: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 15:19, Iain Truskett wrote: [...] Much like Perl 6 Essentials then? I must say that its chapter 4 is the clearest look at the perl 6 syntax (as it was at the time of writing) that I've seen yet. Yeah. I would

Re: Implicit parameter aliases

2003-08-14 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2003-08-05 at 16:10:46, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 1:02 PM -0700 8/5/03, Dave Whipp wrote: Can I discriminate on parameter names using multi subs? Nope. Named parameters don't participate in MMD. 1. I'm thinking MMD should be called something else when being applied to multisubs rather

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:00:54PM +0100, Alberto Manuel Brand?o Sim?es wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 14:49, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alberto Manuel Brandão simões) writes: The question is simple, and Dan can have the same problem (or him or Larry). I am thinking on a Perl 6

Re: Perl 6's for() signature

2003-08-14 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did this ever get resolved to anyone's satisfaction? While reading EX6, I found myself wonder exactly what for() would look like in Perl 6 code... A for loop[1] is basically syntax sugar for a while loop. In general, where foo, bar, baz, and quux are

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 14:49, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alberto Manuel Brandão simões) writes: The question is simple, and Dan can have the same problem (or him or Larry). I am thinking on a Perl 6 book in portuguese (maybe only a tutorial... but who knows). But that means I

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 12:19:28AM +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: * Jonathan Scott Duff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Aug 2003 00:16]: [...] Besides you could always provide online updates to your book as the language changes. The first (dead tree) edition would be the rough cut, and later

Re: Perl 6's for() signature

2003-08-14 Thread Luke Palmer
Jonadab The Unsightly One wrote: John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did this ever get resolved to anyone's satisfaction? While reading EX6, I found myself wonder exactly what for() would look like in Perl 6 code... A for loop[1] is basically syntax sugar for a while

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Austin Hastings
Based on current experience, I'd say about three years after the start of development for perl7. =Austin --- Alberto Manuel Brandão_Simões [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Apocalypses and Exegesis are not an 'official' specification for Perl6, I mean, they are subject to change. Is there any

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 15:19, Iain Truskett wrote: * Jonathan Scott Duff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Aug 2003 00:16]: [...] Besides you could always provide online updates to your book as the language changes. The first (dead tree) edition would be the rough cut, and later editions would be

Re: Perl 6's for() signature

2003-08-14 Thread Benjamin Goldberg
Jonadab The Unsightly One wrote: John Siracusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did this ever get resolved to anyone's satisfaction? While reading EX6, I found myself wonder exactly what for() would look like in Perl 6 code... A for loop[1] is basically syntax sugar for a while loop. In

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Iain Truskett
* Jonathan Scott Duff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15 Aug 2003 00:16]: [...] Besides you could always provide online updates to your book as the language changes. The first (dead tree) edition would be the rough cut, and later editions would be closer to reality as the language stablizes. Much like

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread attriel
Apocalypses and Exegesis are not an 'official' specification for Perl6, I mean, they are subject to change. Is there any idea when will we have a freeze on the syntax and features for perl6? Since the A/E gig is where the design team is getting a handle on what it is they want to be doing and

Re: printf-like formatting in interpolated strings

2003-08-14 Thread Larry Wall
Sorry to drag out an old conversation, but I was indisposed at the time, and only just got back to it. On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:07:21PM +0200, Edwin Steiner wrote: : Edwin Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Disallowing interpolated formats on \F has the additional advantage of : making

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Simon Cozens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alberto Manuel Brandão simões) writes: The question is simple, and Dan can have the same problem (or him or Larry). I am thinking on a Perl 6 book in portuguese (maybe only a tutorial... but who knows). But that means I must write something which will work :-) Just a hint:

Re: Perl 6's for() signature

2003-08-14 Thread Jonadab the Unsightly One
Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it's possible to have two routines with the same name which differ by signature... however, in Perl 6, Cfor has only one signature, and it's the one above. The Cfor loop you are thinking of is spelled Cloop, Oh, yes, forgot about that. To the

Re: Apocalypses and Exegesis...

2003-08-14 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:52:42PM +0100, Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões wrote: Apocalypses and Exegesis are not an 'official' specification for Perl6, I mean, they are subject to change. Is there any idea when will we have a freeze on the syntax and features for perl6? Its scheduled to occur

Fwd: Re: Perl 6's for() signature

2003-08-14 Thread Austin Hastings
Fwd from Luke -- he's adopted a retarded MUA. --- Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:22:05 -0600 From: Luke Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perl 6's for() signature Austin Hastings writes: And you can't do that because the loop has no way of knowing that

This Week's Perl 6 Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20030703 Ooh look, it's another Perl 6 summary. Doesn't that man ever take a holiday? I think he took one last month. Is it in Esperanto this week? I don't think so. Does Leon Brocard get a mention? It certainly looks that way.

Re: This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread K Stol
- Original Message - From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:42 AM Subject: This Week's Summary Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20030810 Another week, another summary. How predictable is

This Week's Summary

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Perl 6 Summary for the week ending 20030810 Another week, another summary. How predictable is that? In keeping with the predictability, we'll start with the internals list. Set vs. Assign T.O.G of Spookware has an issue with the way IMCC treats =; sometimes an = means set and

Re: %_ - is it available for use?

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
david nicol wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl -le '$_{a}=27; package notmain; print $_{a}' 27 Gosh! Let's document it! Would it go in perlvar or perlsyn? It's already documented, in perlvar/Technical Note on the Syntax of Variable Names (at the end)