John Macdonald writes:
open(:file), open(:dir), open(:url), ... could be the non-dwimmy
versions. If you don't specify an explicit non-dwimmy base variant,
the dwim magic makes a (preferrably appropriate) choice.
That'll make it easy for people porting PHP scripts to Perl 6 -- in
particular
On 5/1/07, Smylers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are the situations in which a programmer really needs to open
something but doesn't know wether that thing is a file, a directory, or
a URL? I'm still unpersuaded this is sensible default behaviour.
Lots of times. It's an agnosticism, meaning
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 10:00:00AM +0100, Smylers wrote:
: That'll make it easy for people porting PHP scripts to Perl 6 -- in
: particular for those wanting to port the security hole where a CGI
: parameter is used to form part of a filename opened by a script but a
: malicious user can supply a
HaloO,
Uri Guttman wrote:
[..] if
dirs mapped well onto file handles they would have been mapped that way
long ago in the OS. in 30+ years that hasn't happened afaik.
Hans Reiser is promoting just the unification of files and
directories in his Reiser4 filesystem. In particular does
it
HaloO,
Jonathan Lang wrote:
But then, a file handle doesn't behave exactly
like standard in or standard out, either (last I checked, Perl 5
won't do anything useful if you say seek STDIN, 0, SEEK_END).
How should Perl 6 behave? I guess it's possible to return a
lazy list that captures STDIN
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:14:42PM -0700, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
[...] -- so non-dwimmy open
variants are a good idea to keep around.
This could be as simple as 'open(:!dwim)' I guess, or whatever the
negated boolean adverb syntax is these days
open(:file), open(:dir), open(:url),
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 01:16:32PM -0400, John Macdonald wrote:
: On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:14:42PM -0700, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
: [...] -- so non-dwimmy open
: variants are a good idea to keep around.
:
: This could be as simple as 'open(:!dwim)' I guess, or whatever the
: negated
Why bother, actually, when it can just be a lazy list... Opendir and
closedir are very oldschool, and can be retained for whatever
technical detail they are needed, but in most modern code I think
that:
for readdir($dir_name) { .say }
should work as well.
The act of opening a directory
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 07:43:23PM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
As I was playing around with dirhandles, I thought What if... (which
is actualy sorta fun to do in Pugs, where Perl 5 has everything
documented somewhere even if nobody has read it).
My goal is modest: explain fewer things in the
Jonathan Lang writes:
Also: why distinguish between open and opendir? If the string is
the name of a file, 'open' means open the file; if it is the name of
a directory, 'open' means open the directory.
Many programs open a file from a name specified by the user. Even if
Copenfile existed,
brian d foy wrote:
As I was playing around with dirhandles, I thought What if... (which
is actualy sorta fun to do in Pugs, where Perl 5 has everything
documented somewhere even if nobody has read it).
My goal is modest: explain fewer things in the Llama. If dirhandles
were like filehandles,
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 19:00 -0700, Jonathan Lang wrote:
Please. I've always found the opendir ... readdir ... closedir set
to be clunky.
Also: why distinguish between open and opendir? If the string is
the name of a file, 'open' means open the file; if it is the name of
a directory,
Geoffrey Broadwell wrote:
Jonathan Lang wrote:
Also: why distinguish between open and opendir? If the string is
the name of a file, 'open' means open the file; if it is the name of
a directory, 'open' means open the directory. If it's the name of a
pipe, it opens the pipe. And so on.
As
JL == Jonathan Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JL Please. I've always found the opendir ... readdir ... closedir set
JL to be clunky.
JL Also: why distinguish between open and opendir? If the string is
JL the name of a file, 'open' means open the file; if it is the name of
JL a
Uri Guttman wrote:
JL == Jonathan Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JL Please. I've always found the opendir ... readdir ... closedir set
JL to be clunky.
JL Also: why distinguish between open and opendir? If the string is
JL the name of a file, 'open' means open the file; if it is
JL == Jonathan Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JL Well, I did suggest that openfile and opendir exist alongside
JL open, with openfile being more akin to Perl 5's open or
JL sysopen, and open being a bit more dwimmy.
JL But in general, most of the differences that you mention are things
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