[m_to_simon_cozens@wickline.org: perl6 not stagnant]

2001-02-15 Thread Simon Cozens

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perhaps another way perl6 could appear less stagnant might be to revive
the old rfc-announce list for the purpose of distributing pdd's (or
better still, create a pdd-announce list, then announce it's existance
on the perl6 announce list)

I believe the rfc announce list had many subscribers (and probably still
does). I suspect that a pdd announce list would be similarly popular

-matt

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Re: Art Of Unix Programming on Perl

2001-02-15 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert

On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 07:13:30PM -0500, Adam Turoff wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 05:03:12PM +, Simon Cozens wrote:
  There's obvious FUD out there and we don't seem to be giving the impression of
  getting much done, or doing anything to counter it. 
 
 Let's be fair.  We're not getting much done, and that's a *GOOD* thing.
 
 Language design is a very tough nut to crack, and we decided (as
 a group) that we don't want a language designed by committee, we
 want a languaged designed by Larry.  The best we can do (frustrating
 as it may be) is to let him think deeply.

Wasn't he meant to be keeping us up to date with snippets of what he's
doing/thinking about?  I recall Nat posting a couple of months ago that
he'd talked to Larry and Larry had said he'd do this.

K.




perl6-language needs admin help too :)

2001-02-15 Thread Kirrily Skud Robert

As many of you may know, I've recently moved to the other side of the
world, and my life's a bit hectic.  I hadn't counted on p6-l bursting
into life just now, and while I'd like to keep right up to date with it
I really can't guarantee daily reading.

Would anyone like to volunteer to do weekly summaries and/or general
list admin?

K.




Re: perl6-language needs admin help too :)

2001-02-15 Thread Simon Cozens

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:57:13AM -0500, Kirrily Skud Robert wrote:
 Would anyone like to volunteer to do weekly summaries 

Well, don't forget that I *do* have people helping me out with the weekly
summaries. I don't know how people want to play this. Do you want:

* One weekly summary of everything (You're getting this, like it or not. :)
* One weekly summary of each list
* One weekly summary of each list feeding into a weekly summary of
  everything
* Something else?

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Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists (04--11 Feb 2001)

2001-02-15 Thread Simon Cozens

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:46:08PM +0100, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
 Would it be possible to make this summary subsribable, so I can drop my
 subscribtions to p6-internal?

To you, and to everyone else who has asked, yes. I'm working on setting
up a list right now, hosted at netthink. It's currently subscribable, but
there are some teething problems with posting. (Which needn't concern you,
except that if you subscribe right now, you'll see a flurry of test posts for
a while.)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the magic address; at some
point in the near future, I might move the perl5-porters digest there as
well.

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Re: perl6-language needs admin help too :)

2001-02-15 Thread Darin Dugan

At 09:23 AM 2/15/2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 09:57:13AM -0500, Kirrily Skud Robert wrote:
  Would anyone like to volunteer to do weekly summaries

Well, don't forget that I *do* have people helping me out with the weekly
summaries. I don't know how people want to play this. Do you want:

 * One weekly summary of everything (You're getting this, like it or 
 not. :)
 * One weekly summary of each list
 * One weekly summary of each list feeding into a weekly summary of
   everything
 * Something else?

My suspicion is that one weekly summary of all relevant p6 list traffic 
will be most efficient. Those who don't wish to follow everything can 
always skip less interesting sections of the digest.

--
Darin Dugan
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Re: Perl-QA needs administrative help

2001-02-15 Thread schwern

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear on the "mailing list organization" bit.

What the job really is, someone to spot out-of-control threads (for
instance, the "par" discussion on perl6-language), split off a new
mailing list for it (by requesting from Ask), appointing a chair
(probably the person who's driving the thread) and then corral
everyone there.  As a current example, the "todo tests" discussion
should probably be split.

It also involves nudging off-topic conversations off-list.



Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists (04--11 Feb 2001)

2001-02-15 Thread Simon Cozens

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:11:33AM -0800, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the magic address;
 
 -digest has a specific meaning with many mailing list managers. I
 would suggest calling it perl6-summaries or such to avoid confusion.

Yuh, I thought of that the second after telling the boys to set it up.
However, it parallels the perl5-porters list, which is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We use ezmlm, anyway, which doesn't care about the -summaries thing. And I've
announced it now, and people have been subscribing so I think it would cause
more confusion to change it. 

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Re: This week on the perl6 mailing lists

2001-02-15 Thread Bryan C . Warnock

On Tuesday 13 February 2001 21:32, Nathan Torkington wrote:
 David L. Nicol writes:
  Is there a budget?  Apprenticeship makes all kinds of sense when
  there is actually a money flow into the guild; the carrot of eventual
  credentials is too weak for me and many lesser poetasters.  
  
  Could O'Reilly and Microsoft divert some funds to actually paying people
  for helping out?  That would change the ball game something massive
 
 I can't speak the final word for O'Reilly, but I can say that we're
 already paying Larry's salary and have basically told him that
 his most important job is Perl6.  Until that shows fruit, we'd be
 very unlikely to tip more money in the way of perl6.
 
 Good luck getting blood from a ston^W^W^W^W money from Microsoft :-)

Particularly after this:

http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc


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