Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Moritz Lenz
Hi, On 03/23/2015 01:48 AM, Henk van Oers wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Henk van Oers wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Tom Browder wrote: I'm trying to write a test. To test what? Your own typo's? The tests are for a public Perl 6 module trans

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mar 23, 2015 3:19 AM, "Moritz Lenz" wrote: > That said, I wonder why tests need introspection at all. I mean, you test by > doing example calls and comparing to expected example return values. No argument from me. I am at the point of trying to replicate, in Perl 6, somene else's test suite (

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about > testing in general. Any recommendations for books on the subject? -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
> On 23 Mar 2015, at 14:11, Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >> From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about >> testing in general. > Any recommendations for books on the subject? Perl Testing - A Developer’s notebook: http://sh

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: >> On 23 Mar 2015, at 14:11, Tom Browder wrote: >> Any recommendations for books on the subject? > > Perl Testing - A Developer’s notebook: Thanks, Liz--getting it! -Tom

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread B. Estrade
As good as this book is, it's still Perl 5 specific. So watch out if you're coming from Perl 5 land and Heaven forbid you're looking to do traditional things, you might get scolded for asking a reasonable question. o_O. Brett On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > On 2

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Bruce Gray
On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >> From your and Henk's comments, I think I need to learn a lot more about >> testing in general. > > Any recommendations for books on the subject? > > -Tom http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM, B. Estrade wrote: > As good as this book is, it's still Perl 5 specific. So watch out if you're > coming from Perl 5 land and Heaven forbid you're looking to do traditional > things, you might get scolded for asking a reasonable question. o_O. Roger! Thanks, Bre

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Bruce Gray wrote: >> Any recommendations for books on the subject? > http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596100926.do > Perl Testing: A Developer's Notebook > by Ian Langworth and Chromatic > > From 2005, but still a fantastic primer on testing in P

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Carl Mäsak
(resending to p6u) Tom (>>), Henk (>): > > That doesn't seem to work with private methods. Any trick to accomplish > > that? > > What part of 'private' did you mis? Henk, that's an unnecessarily harsh way to say "Private methods are private and not visible or testable outside of the class." In

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Henk van Oers
[...] From 2005, but still a fantastic primer on testing in Perl. Sorry Tom. I think you must read a book about OO. Unsubscribing from this list now, Regards, Henk

Re: Object Introspection for Existence of Methods: How?

2015-03-23 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Henk van Oers wrote: >>> From 2005, but still a fantastic primer on testing in Perl. > Sorry Tom. > I think you must read a book about OO. I will go back and review OO, Henk. Thanks. Best, -Tom