--- On Tue, 3/24/09, jason switzer jswit...@gmail.com wrote:
Basically, the perl community has largely adopted TIMTOWTDI
So how about a Tim the Toady? :)
===
Hodges' Rule of Thumb: Don't expect reasonable behavior from anything with
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Larry Wall la...@wall.org wrote:
http://www.wall.org/~larry/cameliafav.icohttp://www.wall.org/%7Elarry/cameliafav.ico
out to be necessary. Hand-crafted anti-aliasing is your friend. :)
Larry
firefox at 3025%: cameliafav.ico all blown up. [groan]
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 18:06 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: Here is something then:
: http://p6.hpfamily.net/rakudo-0.png
I like Camelia at that size, though the left-right balance is off in a
couple ways.
i was informed of that but so far this is just rescaling and
cut-and-paste
: So let
Larry Wall wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:49:42AM -0700, Jon Lang wrote:
: 2009/3/24 Larry Wall la...@wall.org:
: http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
Not picking on you in particular, but I think there's a tendency to
go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something
with
to further comment, I would never believe a logo actually influences
which programming languages one chooses to develop in ... but I would
argue that a logo needs to convey the right 'messages' to those who
pay for software projects ... as with any logo; my point is to
identify these messages
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, James Fuller
james.fuller.2...@gmail.comwrote:
Is there any sponsorship money to spend on a very good graphic
designer to create something based on a small list of requirements as
to what meaning it should convey ?
I would agree; have a professional do it and
I like the Camelia it's colourful, fun - it even has an embedded, sideways
reference to a Camel.
But IMHO there is a need for three logos:
1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo
I like the suggestion of having cartoon speech bubbles around the Parrot
that contain favicons of the language icons (e.g.,
But IMHO there is a need for three logos:
1. Combined Parrot + Rakudo
(Parrot with speech bubbles in favicon halo)++
2. Rakudo
Camelia++
3. Perl6 = the test suite
The current plan is that Perl6 will not have a single implementation but
that the test suite is shared by
jason switzer jswit...@gmail.com writes:
[warning: light-hearted humor ahead]
There's also the notion that perl6's scope has creeped to accommodate a
large enough set of ideas. Seems like an appropriate logo:
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2hl=enq=kitchen+sink
I kinda liked that one
jason switzer writes:
Basically, the perl community has largely adopted TIMTOWTDI as a
philosophy ... For that, a cluster of arrows in different directions
seems fitting
Or a toad, called Tim -- frogs are cuter than arrows!
(Though timtowtdi is already associated with Perl 5, so perhaps not
Perl 6 is more than just the test suite. It's a language
specification, a reference parser, a test suite, and perhaps a
reference setting implementation. All of the things about the
language that are not tied to a particular implementation are part of
Perl 6.
Rakudo is a particular
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:36:56AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
Rakudo is a particular implementation of Perl 6 using Parrot. While
it is a separate project from both Perl 6 and Parrot, it is intimately
tied to both, and I think its logo should reflect that. I don't see
much point in having
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:59 -0500, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:36:56AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
Rakudo is a particular implementation of Perl 6 using Parrot. While
it is a separate project from both Perl 6 and Parrot, it is intimately
tied to both, and I think
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
: On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
: Additionally, while you recommended Camelia for Rakudo, my
: understanding was that Larry was recommending it for Perl 6 rather than
: Rakudo.
This is correct.
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:39 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
: On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
: Additionally, while you recommended Camelia for Rakudo, my
: understanding was that Larry was
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:43:47PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
: On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 09:39 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 08:54:34AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
: : On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 22:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
: : Additionally, while you recommended
Are we seeking a logo for Perl 6 in general or Rakudo in particular?
It seems like the latter should be derived from the former, perhaps
with the Parrot logo mixed in.
On 3/24/09, Daniel Ruoso dan...@ruoso.com wrote:
Em Ter, 2009-03-24 às 09:01 -0300, Daniel Ruoso escreveu:
A zombie cat?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:15 -0400, Daniel Ruoso dan...@ruoso.com wrote:
are you suggesting that the cat should be eating a parrot in the rakudo
logo?
Haha... that's pretty funny.
--
ispy++
--- On Tue, 3/24/09, John Macdonald j...@perlwolf.com wrote:
The graphene logo inspires me to suggest that a carbon
ring be used as the logo for Parrot...
A carbon ring also has the advantages that it's regognizable as a very small
logo, even as just a favicon.ico, and can be reasonably if
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 08:42 -0700, Paul Hodges wrote:
--- On Tue, 3/24/09, John Macdonald j...@perlwolf.com wrote:
The graphene logo inspires me to suggest that a carbon
ring be used as the logo for Parrot...
Did you mean Rakudo here ?
Parrot seems to have a logo already.
A carbon
http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
2009/3/24 Larry Wall la...@wall.org:
http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
Intended or not, the smiley is a nice tribute to Audrey and her lovely
style of presentations.
--
Amir Elisha Aharoni
heb: http://haharoni.wordpress.com | eng: http://aharoni.wordpress.com
cat:
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 09:16 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
It's nice but I don't get it.
google: camelia
http://camelia.sourceforge.net/
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/plants/camelia/
http://www.hotelcamelia.com/
http://akira.ruc.dk/~camelia/
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:49:42AM -0700, Jon Lang wrote:
: 2009/3/24 Larry Wall la...@wall.org:
: http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
:
: Cute. I do like the hyper-operated smiley-face.
:
: What I'd really like to see, though, is a logo that speaks to Perl's
: linguistic roots. That, more
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 10:24 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
Not picking on you in particular, but I think there's a tendency to
go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something
[snip]
In addition, you can extend just about anything by attaching P6
wings to it. I also take it as a
Oh, I forgot to mention that Camelia's larval form was a dromedary,
and she's actually got a wingspan of about 3 meters. You really
don't want to get her mad. (It is rumored that she has a very
small hump, but if so, she shows it only to her close friends.)
She was genetically engineered while
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 10:37 -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
Oh, I forgot to mention that Camelia's larval form was a dromedary,
well that might have given us a clue
and she's actually got a wingspan of about 3 meters. You really
don't want to get her mad. (It is rumored that she has a very
small
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:33:41PM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
: I was unaware of mysogyny in the perl community. I'm sorry to hear
: about it.
In general it's not overt as it is in other communities, or even
intended--I think we do pretty well, in fact--but it's easy to
discourage people
-Original Message-
From: Conrad Schneiker [mailto:conrad.schnei...@gmail.com]
Here's my latest suggestion:
http://www.athenalab.com/Rakudo_logo_2.htm
It combines Damian Conway's suggestions (please see below)
and Ross Kendall's suggestions at
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:24:47AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
I want something
with gut appeal on the order of Tux. In particular I want a logo
for Perl 6 that is:
Fun
Cool
Cute
Named
Lively
Punable
[...]
+2 to this approach.
Pm
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 11:38 -0700, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
Here's my latest suggestion:
http://www.athenalab.com/Rakudo_logo_2.htm
It combines Damian Conway's suggestions (please see below)
and Ross Kendall's suggestions at
(http://www.rakudo.org/some-rakudo-logo-ideas).
For a smaller
Em Ter, 2009-03-24 às 09:17 -0400, Mark J. Reed escreveu:
Are we seeking a logo for Perl 6 in general or Rakudo in particular?
It seems like the latter should be derived from the former, perhaps
with the Parrot logo mixed in.
are you suggesting that the cat should be eating a parrot in the
Em Seg, 2009-03-23 às 21:47 -0700, Darren Duncan escreveu:
If you're going for sciencey or mathey illustrations, then I think its
important
to include something that speaks quantum physics in there, since quantum
superpositions aka Junctions are one of the big central user features that
2009/3/24 Larry Wall la...@wall.org:
http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
Cute. I do like the hyper-operated smiley-face.
What I'd really like to see, though, is a logo that speaks to Perl's
linguistic roots. That, more than anything else I can think of, is
_the_ defining feature of Perl.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:16:01AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
http://www.wall.org/~larry/camelia.pdf
I gotta say, that these are the first 2 that I even remotely like. I
especially like how the P and the 6 are in the wings. I think what
appeals to me is that they are simple, easy to look at, and
creating a logo by committee is probably the worst way to design such
things ... perl6 logo will be seen in the context of other more
professionally designed logos and like it or not using the basics of
modern branding and marketing will result in something that is more
recognizable no matter
Larry Wall wrote:
And in fact, the ö form looks more like a Hyper Attack Butterfly
that is about to bite your face off... :)
Her topmodel looks very hexagonal.
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--
Ruud
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:17:15AM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote:
Are we seeking a logo for Perl 6 in general or Rakudo in particular?
It seems like the latter should be derived from the former, perhaps
with the Parrot logo mixed in.
The graphene logo inspires me to suggest that a carbon
ring be
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:56:46AM -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote:
On Tue, 2009-24-03 at 08:42 -0700, Paul Hodges wrote:
--- On Tue, 3/24/09, John Macdonald j...@perlwolf.com wrote:
The graphene logo inspires me to suggest that a carbon
ring be used as the logo for Parrot...
Did you mean
Firstly, I'd like to speak in favour of the idea of designing a logo
for Perl6, and then creating a Rakudo logo based on the Perl6 logo and the
Parrot logo. From here on, I'll be addressing the Perl6 logo.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Larry Wall wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 09:49:42AM -0700, Jon
On Wed, 2009-25-03 at 10:45 +1100, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
In response to those asking for a professional designer, I'd like to
see us go around a few more times here, and see if we can't come up with at
least a good concept that could hopefully be used/stylised by a real graphic
Timothy S. Nelson wrote [on p6l]:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
Alternatively, if we stay away from animals, then how about something
to do with parallelism, or super-positioning, or even a strange
attractor, since perl6 can be
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