Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread C Bobroff
> fanatics don't want 100% Unicode compatibility, which will show their > Yehs (which is usually Arabic Yehs instead of Persian Yehs) show with > two ugly dots below them. I don't understand why all the Arabic Yehs on Persian websites and documents. Some sort of hot fashion? Plain ignorance?? I

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread C Bobroff
Fariborz, Experience hath shown it's not the best use of time to discuss this topic too much. In this case, I just don't want to think about the people who will download the new Koodak for free and sell it for a nice profit. Not fair to the Farsiweb team nor the person who first made Koodak. I wond

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> By the way, why have you said in the "License" that permission is granted > to SELL this font software? Aren't you being just a little TOO generous > there? BSD style licenses all allow you to exploit the system commercially; most people, however, choose to contribute their work back to the comm

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread C Bobroff
There is already a font called Koodak. Won't users (and their computers) have a problem when they THINK they are seeing this font but it's really the old one? It won't occur to them to download the new one. -Connie On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > As part of a set of TTF fonts we a

[PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
As part of a set of TTF fonts we are planning to release in 100% Unicode-compatible format, we are happy to release our first font, Koodak. This font is in alpha status, and we need your help in order to fix possible bugs. Installation instructions are at the end of this notice. The font itself,

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 21:56, C Bobroff wrote: > Too bad the person who drew the original outlines remains a mystery. That just needs a little research (interviews, etc). Unfortunately nobody in FarsiWeb has the time. > My guess is that most people won't realize they should download the new, > im

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Can someone produce a BDF version? Thanks, -Fariborz > As part of a set of TTF fonts we are planning to release in > 100% Unicode-compatible format, we are happy to release our first font, > Koodak. This font is in alpha status, and we need your help in order to > fix possible bugs. Installation

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-14 Thread C Bobroff
> ...). Now both MS Windows and Red Hat Linux ship with those fonts. Oh, so THAT'S what the plan was. Very nice! -Connie ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 22:20, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > My computing environment is Plan9. Plan9 fully supports Unicode > (UTF-8), but it lacks the glyphs for several font ranges. There is > currently no ttf or opentype support or conversion routines. I've > written a BDF font converter to Plan9

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-12 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 22:43, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > I didn't see a link from the index page at www.farsiweb.info to > the Koodak font. It might be convient to have one. We will do that when we reach 'beta'. Too soon now. roozbeh ___ PersianComputi

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-12 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
>> Can someone produce a BDF version? > > The question is: why do you need one? My computing environment is Plan9. Plan9 fully supports Unicode (UTF-8), but it lacks the glyphs for several font ranges. There is currently no ttf or opentype support or conversion routines. I've written a BDF fon

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-11 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Experience hath shown it's not the best use of time to discuss > this topic too much. In this case, I just don't want to think about the > people who will download the new Koodak for free and sell it for a nice > profit. Not fair to the Farsiweb team nor the person who first made > Koodak. I wond

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-11 Thread C Bobroff
> In > countries like Iran where the availability of source can be a great > teaching resource to students in schools and universities, it does a > lot more good than perceived harm. Did you see this video? http://www.science-arts.org/src/story/presentations/video/all.ram It's old (2001) but it f

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-10 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> Did you see this video? > http://www.science-arts.org/src/story/presentations/video/all.ram I hadn't seen this before. Very interesting. All donations are tax deductable as well. I'll look into it; Thanks. ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL P

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-09 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:43, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Can someone produce a BDF version? The question is: why do you need one? roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-09 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 23:28, C Bobroff wrote: > In this case, I just don't want to think about the > people who will download the new Koodak for free and sell it for a nice > profit. Not fair to the Farsiweb team nor the person who first made > Koodak. But fair if, say, the developers allow it to

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-08 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 05:09, C Bobroff wrote: > I don't understand why all the Arabic Yehs on Persian websites and > documents. Some sort of hot fashion? Plain ignorance?? It's CP1256 legacy. The original version didn't have a Persian Yeh, so people started using the Arabic one instead. It stuck,

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-08 Thread C Bobroff
> The point is, this is exactly just *that* Koodak, but only improved with > regard to Unicode compatiblity. ok, I guess that is good to keep the exact name. Too bad the person who drew the original outlines remains a mystery. > As for user (and computer ;)) education, that's not our expertise. We

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-08 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> I see. That's nice if it works. It works; witness: Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, XWindows, Apache, Cygwin, Perl, MySQL, to name a few. To be entirely accurate some of the above are GPL, which eventhough puts no restrictions on commercial exploitation, requires the derived work to be GPL also. -Fari

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-08 Thread C Bobroff
> BSD style licenses all allow you to exploit the system commercially; > most people, however, choose to contribute their work back to the > community. I see. That's nice if it works. > I didn't see a link from the index page at www.farsiweb.info to > the Koodak font. It might be convient to have

Re: [PersianComputing] Koodak font: alpha release

2003-08-08 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 18:45, C Bobroff wrote: > There is already a font called Koodak. Won't users (and their computers) > have a problem when they THINK they are seeing this font but it's really > the old one? It won't occur to them to download the new one. The point is, this is exactly just *tha