Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > What is the point of academies and ZWNJ's existing if frustrated PC > users don't know about them? I completely agree. But why is't anyone else trying to scratch the itch? Why are we the only prophets of the God of Typography on the Internet? I still don't

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> But I will generate something with Omega typesetting engine, to show the desired behaviour. ok! If it looks nice, we'll get the space added to the Nazanin font along with all the other refurbishments! -Connie ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > > No! Three bytes was the single character in UTF-8 encoding. > Oh. I read some place one character per byte. > > ok, then that BOX I was seeing with UTF-8 IS it and I WAS viewing it > ok. > Next time (if there is one) please send a .gif or something with

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> No! Three bytes was the single character in UTF-8 encoding. Oh. I read some place one character per byte. ok, then that BOX I was seeing with UTF-8 IS it and I WAS viewing it ok. Next time (if there is one) please send a .gif or something with some words. Spaces can only be appreciated in conte

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > > don't let it leak to the real world. > Yeah the contents were absolutely radioactive. Couldn't see much besides > garbage. I assume 2 of the bytes were letters and the 3rd was the space in > question. No! Three bytes was the single character in UTF-8 en

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> don't let it leak to the real world. Yeah the contents were absolutely radioactive. Couldn't see much besides garbage. I assume 2 of the bytes were letters and the 3rd was the space in question. I think Roozbeh had mentioned something about "hassles" :) -Connie ___

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
This 3byte attached file contains the sample, but open it with enough care, don't let it leak to the real world. On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > Can you send me an attachement of this mystery character? > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobr

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
Can you send me an attachement of this mystery character? On Sat, 16 Nov 2002, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > > > > Use charmap. > > OK, I did but I'm still having trouble. > > I found it with charmap under "General Punctuation" with Arial Unicode MS > > font (b

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > > Use charmap. > OK, I did but I'm still having trouble. > I found it with charmap under "General Punctuation" with Arial Unicode MS > font (but not Times New Roman--are spaces also part of fonts??) but when I I can't find it in any font. > copy it into m

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> Use charmap. OK, I did but I'm still having trouble. I found it with charmap under "General Punctuation" with Arial Unicode MS font (but not Times New Roman--are spaces also part of fonts??) but when I copy it into my doc, the space is actually WIDER than normal space. Something wrong. -Connie

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Use charmap. On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > > You are not wrong in computing, but that A0 is NBSP as you told > > yourself, which is NoBreak Space. But my beloved character is > > U+202F Narrow NoBreak Space. The important part is the Narrow > > one. > > Oh yeah, duh. What was I think

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> You are not wrong in computing, but that A0 is NBSP as you told > yourself, which is NoBreak Space. But my beloved character is > U+202F Narrow NoBreak Space. The important part is the Narrow > one. Oh yeah, duh. What was I thinking?? I've got to get some sleep or something. But your beloved i

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > But with A0, I'm getting 10 * 16 = 160 + 0 = 160 which must be wrong > because the result is a space exactly the same width as regular space > (although with formatting symbols displayed a small circle gets displayed > to show it really is some sort of spec

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> If you want my advice, Never put a full space between "mi-" and what > follows it. It's horrible. If you can't enter ZWNJ, write it connected. It > has been written this way for a long time, at least, and I guess still > many oldies (!) write it this way. LOL! There's a whole bunch of people who

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread C Bobroff
> But I believe we lack the authority to do that. Some folks are good at Persian and some folks are good at computing but it's hard to find both qualities in one person and it's hard to find a group with both who can work together. I'm not saying you have to publish anything official but there ar

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > No! Only under extreme conditions I sometimes put a full space between > "mi" and "konad" but that is only when desperate. I never can bring myself > to type "mikonad" without any space. If you want my advice, Never put a full space between "mi-" and what f

Re: [PersianComputing] Re: My radical discovery. Persian computingmade easy

2002-11-15 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, C Bobroff wrote: > Oh. Too bad. Maybe we should make our own. A previous member of FarsiWeb has done so personally. But I believe we lack the authority to do that. We're just computer guys, not linguists. One of the FarsiWeb's main guidelines is try to invent as little as pos