Re: Sorting Problem with Pashto
It appears that every piece of email on this thread has been bouncing back and force a couple of times already. Is there a problem with the listserv? Some element is reflecting the same message back. Lets hope it doesn't happen to this one. I am working on a Dictionary project for Pashto language. Was trying to enter English into Pashto dictionary into Microsoft Access and while sorting the Pashto column on ascending order, I came to across a bug (thats what i'll call it). The image below is a screen short of Access Database sorted on the right column which is Pashto Meaning of the English word on the left side. As you can see that in Pashto the letter TTeh (Teh with circle) comes after Teh and before wow but in this list TTeh, TZEEM, and TSEH comes after wow which comes at the end almost. Could anyone tell me whats the problem here and how can we fix it ? Thank you Said Marjan Zazai, Afghan Tech. Kabul, Afghanistan. ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Sorting Problem with Pashto
I am working on a Dictionary project for Pashto language. Was trying to enter "English into Pashto" dictionary into Microsoft Access and while sorting the "Pashto" column on ascending order, I came to across a bug (thats what i'll call it). The image below is a screen short of Access Database sorted on the right column which is Pashto Meaning of the English word on the left side. As you can see that in Pashto the letter TTeh (Teh with circle) comes after Teh and before wow but in this list TTeh, TZEEM, and TSEH comes after wow whichcomes at the end almost. Could anyone tell me whats the problem here and how can we fix it? Thank you Said Marjan Zazai, Afghan Tech. Kabul, Afghanistan. dicscrsht.gif___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
RE: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto
Dear Said, Please be aware that Microsoft has notmade Pashto language tailored sorting in our system yet. Is it possible for you to send me the correct sorting order for Pashto? I would be happy to forward that datato the person who handles sorting so we can fix this in a future release of Windows. Kind regards, Paul Nelson ProgramManager Globalization Infrastructure/Font Technology From: Said Marjan Zazai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 5:27 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto I am working on a Dictionary project for Pashto language. Was trying to enter "English into Pashto" dictionary into Microsoft Access and while sorting the "Pashto" column on ascending order, I came to across a bug (thats what i'll call it). The image below is a screen short of Access Database sorted on the right column which is Pashto Meaning of the English word on the left side. As you can see that in Pashto the letter TTeh (Teh with circle) comes after Teh and before wow but in this list TTeh, TZEEM, and TSEH comes after wow whichcomes at the end almost. Could anyone tell me whats the problem here and how can we fix it? Thank you Said Marjan Zazai, Afghan Tech. Kabul, Afghanistan. Homepage: www.paktype.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Click Here Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paktype/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. dicscrsht.gif___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
RE: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto
I think that Microsoft has fixed this issue in MS Office 2003 and Windows Server 2003 Cheers, ~Sina At 06:31 -0800 2004-02-23, Paul Nelson \(TYPOGRAPHY\) wrote: Dear Said, Please be aware that Microsoft has not made Pashto language tailored sorting in our system yet. Is it possible for you to send me the correct sorting order for Pashto? I would be happy to forward that data to the person who handles sorting so we can fix this in a future release of Windows. Paul, please see the files at http://www.evertype.com/standards/af/ where the correct sorting specification is given. -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
RE: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto
My Excel macro isnt extremely fast, but it works. Once your text has been converted into numeric strings, sorting itself is fast. I sorted a +200,000 word dictionary in a language that requires sorting by syllables (Tibetan). It had to be done in several steps, due to Excel spreadsheet limitations, but the result was flawless. Peter From: Said Marjan Zazai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ABDUL MAJEED Subject: Re: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto Thanks Paul and Peter I'll forward you the correct sorting order for Pashto ASAP. But Peter, wont it take too much of a computer memory for the string conversion for 24,000 words dictionary? - Original Message - From: Linguasoft To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: RE: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto Dear Said Marjan Zazai, As a workaround for automatic sorting in Office, try assigning a two- or three-digit numeric code to each Unicode used in Pashto, then convert all your Pashto strings in numeric strings and sort them. A bit clumsy, but it works! (We do the same for other languages for which automatic sorting isnt yet supported.) BTW, please also send me the correct sorting for Pashto and if you want, I send you a simple Excel macro in return that will do the sorting for your dictionary. Best regards, Peter E. Hauer Linguasoft Vienna, Austria From: Said Marjan Zazai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [paktype] Sorting Problem with Pashto I am working on a Dictionary project for Pashto language. Was trying to enter English into Pashto dictionary into Microsoft Access and while sorting the Pashto column on ascending order, I came to across a bug (thats what i'll call it). The image below is a screen short of Access Database sorted on the right column which is Pashto Meaning of the English word on the left side. As you can see that in Pashto the letter TTeh (Teh with circle) comes after Teh and before wow but in this list TTeh, TZEEM, and TSEH comes after wow whichcomes at the end almost. Could anyone tell me whats the problem here and how can we fix it? Thank you Said Marjan Zazai, Afghan Tech. Kabul, Afghanistan. Homepage: www.paktype.org Homepage: www.paktype.org Homepage: www.paktype.org Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paktype/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. image001.gif___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
