Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
Hi, I think your problem with KDE could be solved easily by disabling all of the Keyboard Layout settings in its control center, so it would not override X settings. Have Fun, Hedayat Medi Montaseri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on ۰۵/۱۲/۰۴ 12:08:35: Thanks Hedayat... I'll try these and get back with you. Yes, I also go after the xorg.conf... In FC4, KDE although I had made the changes in my xorg.conf, it would require two actions to get the Farsi keyboard layout, one is to click on the tray icon (informing kde window manager) and then the alt-shift. ... Mehdi On 12/3/05, Hedayat Vatankhah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Medi Montaseri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on ۰۵/۱۲/۰۳ 05:48:49: Ok...so I downloaded http://www.farsiweb.info/font/farsifonts-0.4.zip and my unzip(1) program said You may need to download the file again. (I've downloaded it last year and it works) funny thingthe faulty operations I described can be fixed by pressing shift-d , that is regular 'd' generates the bad "ye" and 'shift-d' generates the correct version... This is the Arabic "ye" which you see using shift-d. I don't know about the Roya font you have, but I have one without any problem with Persain "ye". Anyway, your problem may be fixed by removing that unusable ugly fonts in /usr/share/fonts/bitmap-fonts: 9x15.pcf, 9x15b.pcf and another one which I think it's name was 10x*.pcf (I don't remember the * part, but it looks like that there is only one font starting with 10x). (Removing these files is the first thing I do after installing a Fedora version on a system). Finally, if you want more fonts than farsiweb fonts; I recommend using free B* fonts such as B Roya. I have done this before on FC2 and FC4 in KDEthis is my new FC4 box which I had to switch to gnome because the alt-shift keyboard switching was'nt working on KDE...anyway, I should'nt polute the problem... I don't know about your problem, but I always prefer to change X configuration file for Persian typing support. With this, you don't need to set it up for each user and for each desktop system. It works everywhere! It is very easy too: open the X config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf in Fedora) as root and find this line: Option "XkbLayout" "us" Then, replace this line with these lines: Option "XkbLayout" "us,ir" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:win_switch,grp_led:scroll" Save this file and restart the X window system. After this, you should be able to switch between Persian and English with Alt+Shift, or switching temporary by holding Win key (only left one in FC4); and the scroll lock LED will be on when you can type in Persian. Good Luck, Hedayat Thanks guys... Medi On 12/2/05, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Hi > I am having some problems with my Farsi fonts on my browser and in gedit > on a Linux box (Fedor Core 4, Gnome ) > > My problem is > > Letter "Ye" is always rendered as though it was an independent or > detatched letter. For example, in the word "MILI" (as in mili-second) all > the > "Ye" letters are rendered as it would with "MEHDI" where "ye" is not > connected to "de". Basically, you don't have good fonts, and that's the default on FC4 unfortunately :(. You need to install the FarsiWeb fonts package (available from http://farsiweb.info/) to start with. There is a fontconfig configuration file like this one: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~behdad/fonts-persian.conf This will be included in fontconfig-2.4 release coming soon. > Some help is appreciated. > Thanks > Medi --behdad http://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill" -- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Also, I didn't know what to do with the fonts.conf file you pointed out, > should I > download and put in it my $HOME/.fonts.conf Yes, exactly. --behdad http://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill" -- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
Thanks Hedayat... I'll try these and get back with you. Yes, I also go after the xorg.conf... In FC4, KDE although I had made the changes in my xorg.conf, it would require two actions to get the Farsi keyboard layout, one is to click on the tray icon (informing kde window manager) and then the alt-shift. The usual procedure I have used before is simply to make the necessary changes within X, and the key-sequence does the job, regardless of what window manager (or desk top, kde or gnome, etc) is used...in gnome env, I don't have that 2 action problem...hence my desktop selection.. I'm home now, I'll report on Mondaythe mis-behaving box is at work...I guess that's what one gets when corporate IT guys insists on provisioning computers and such... MehdiOn 12/3/05, Hedayat Vatankhah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Medi Montaseri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on ۰۵/۱۲/۰۳ 05:48:49: Ok...so I downloaded http://www.farsiweb.info/font/farsifonts-0.4.zip and my unzip(1) program said You may need to download the file again. (I've downloaded it last year and it works) funny thingthe faulty operations I described can be fixed by pressing shift-d , that is regular 'd' generates the bad "ye" and 'shift-d' generates the correct version... This is the Arabic "ye" which you see using shift-d. I don't know about the Roya font you have, but I have one without any problem with Persain "ye". Anyway, your problem may be fixed by removing that unusable ugly fonts in /usr/share/fonts/bitmap-fonts: 9x15.pcf, 9x15b.pcf and another one which I think it's name was 10x*.pcf (I don't remember the * part, but it looks like that there is only one font starting with 10x). (Removing these files is the first thing I do after installing a Fedora version on a system). Finally, if you want more fonts than farsiweb fonts; I recommend using free B* fonts such as B Roya. I have done this before on FC2 and FC4 in KDEthis is my new FC4 box which I had to switch to gnome because the alt-shift keyboard switching was'nt working on KDE...anyway, I should'nt polute the problem... I don't know about your problem, but I always prefer to change X configuration file for Persian typing support. With this, you don't need to set it up for each user and for each desktop system. It works everywhere! It is very easy too: open the X config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf in Fedora) as root and find this line: Option "XkbLayout" "us" Then, replace this line with these lines: Option "XkbLayout" "us,ir" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:win_switch,grp_led:scroll" Save this file and restart the X window system. After this, you should be able to switch between Persian and English with Alt+Shift, or switching temporary by holding Win key (only left one in FC4); and the scroll lock LED will be on when you can type in Persian. Good Luck, Hedayat Thanks guys... Medi On 12/2/05, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Hi > I am having some problems with my Farsi fonts on my browser and in gedit > on a Linux box (Fedor Core 4, Gnome ) > > My problem is > > Letter "Ye" is always rendered as though it was an independent or > detatched letter. For example, in the word "MILI" (as in mili-second) all > the > "Ye" letters are rendered as it would with "MEHDI" where "ye" is not > connected to "de". Basically, you don't have good fonts, and that's the default on FC4 unfortunately :(. You need to install the FarsiWeb fonts package (available from http://farsiweb.info/) to start with. There is a fontconfig configuration file like this one: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~behdad/fonts-persian.conf This will be included in fontconfig-2.4 release coming soon. > Some help is appreciated. > Thanks > Medi --behdad http://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill" -- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
Hi, Medi Montaseri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on ۰۵/۱۲/۰۳ 05:48:49: Ok...so I downloaded http://www.farsiweb.info/font/farsifonts-0.4.zip and my unzip(1) program said You may need to download the file again. (I've downloaded it last year and it works) funny thingthe faulty operations I described can be fixed by pressing shift-d , that is regular 'd' generates the bad "ye" and 'shift-d' generates the correct version... This is the Arabic "ye" which you see using shift-d. I don't know about the Roya font you have, but I have one without any problem with Persain "ye". Anyway, your problem may be fixed by removing that unusable ugly fonts in /usr/share/fonts/bitmap-fonts: 9x15.pcf, 9x15b.pcf and another one which I think it's name was 10x*.pcf (I don't remember the * part, but it looks like that there is only one font starting with 10x). (Removing these files is the first thing I do after installing a Fedora version on a system). Finally, if you want more fonts than farsiweb fonts; I recommend using free B* fonts such as B Roya. I have done this before on FC2 and FC4 in KDEthis is my new FC4 box which I had to switch to gnome because the alt-shift keyboard switching was'nt working on KDE...anyway, I should'nt polute the problem... I don't know about your problem, but I always prefer to change X configuration file for Persian typing support. With this, you don't need to set it up for each user and for each desktop system. It works everywhere! It is very easy too: open the X config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf in Fedora) as root and find this line: Option "XkbLayout" "us" Then, replace this line with these lines: Option "XkbLayout" "us,ir" Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp:win_switch,grp_led:scroll" Save this file and restart the X window system. After this, you should be able to switch between Persian and English with Alt+Shift, or switching temporary by holding Win key (only left one in FC4); and the scroll lock LED will be on when you can type in Persian. Good Luck, Hedayat Thanks guys... Medi On 12/2/05, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Hi > I am having some problems with my Farsi fonts on my browser and in gedit > on a Linux box (Fedor Core 4, Gnome ) > > My problem is > > Letter "Ye" is always rendered as though it was an independent or > detatched letter. For example, in the word "MILI" (as in mili-second) all > the > "Ye" letters are rendered as it would with "MEHDI" where "ye" is not > connected to "de". Basically, you don't have good fonts, and that's the default on FC4 unfortunately :(. You need to install the FarsiWeb fonts package (available from http://farsiweb.info/) to start with. There is a fontconfig configuration file like this one: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~behdad/fonts-persian.conf This will be included in fontconfig-2.4 release coming soon. > Some help is appreciated. > Thanks > Medi --behdad http://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill" -- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
Ok...so I downloaded http://www.farsiweb.info/font/farsifonts-0.4.zip and my unzip(1) program said [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/download/farsi> unzip farsifonts-0.4.zip Archive: farsifonts-0.4.zip End-of-central-directory signature not found. Either this file is not a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive. In the latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on the last disk(s) of this archive. unzip: cannot find zipfile directory in one of farsifonts-0.4.zip or farsifonts-0.4.zip.zip, and cannot find farsifonts-0.4.zip.ZIP, period. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/download/farsi> Then I used my friends Windows box, unpack it, shipped it over to my linux box and used kcontrol to install it, confirmed via gnome-font-properties(1) that my GNOME desktop sees them as well...and I chosed Roya for my Application Font, Desktop Font, Windows Title Font But the problem still remains Also, I didn't know what to do with the fonts.conf file you pointed out, should I download and put in it my $HOME/.fonts.conf ...funny thingthe faulty operations I described can be fixed by pressing shift-d , that is regular 'd' generates the bad "ye" and 'shift-d' generates the correct version... I have done this before on FC2 and FC4 in KDEthis is my new FC4 box which I had to switch to gnome because the alt-shift keyboard switching was'nt working on KDE...anyway, I should'nt polute the problem... Thanks guys... MediOn 12/2/05, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote:> Hi> I am having some problems with my Farsi fonts on my browser and in gedit> on a Linux box (Fedor Core 4, Gnome )>> My problem is> > Letter "Ye" is always rendered as though it was an independent or> detatched letter. For example, in the word "MILI" (as in mili-second) all> the> "Ye" letters are rendered as it would with "MEHDI" where "ye" is not > connected to "de".Basically, you don't have good fonts, and that's the default onFC4 unfortunately :(. You need to install the FarsiWeb fontspackage (available from http://farsiweb.info/) to start with.There is a fontconfig configuration file like this one: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~behdad/fonts-persian.conf This will be included in fontconfig-2.4 release coming soon.> Some help is appreciated.> Thanks> Medi--behdadhttp://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill"-- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Bad Farsi Fonts or something
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Medi Montaseri wrote: > Hi > I am having some problems with my Farsi fonts on my browser and in gedit > on a Linux box (Fedor Core 4, Gnome ) > > My problem is > > Letter "Ye" is always rendered as though it was an independent or > detatched letter. For example, in the word "MILI" (as in mili-second) all > the > "Ye" letters are rendered as it would with "MEHDI" where "ye" is not > connected to "de". Basically, you don't have good fonts, and that's the default on FC4 unfortunately :(. You need to install the FarsiWeb fonts package (available from http://farsiweb.info/) to start with. There is a fontconfig configuration file like this one: http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~behdad/fonts-persian.conf This will be included in fontconfig-2.4 release coming soon. > Some help is appreciated. > Thanks > Medi --behdad http://behdad.org/ "Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill" -- Dan Bern, "New American Language" ___ PersianComputing mailing list PersianComputing@lists.sharif.edu http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
