Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Scott Whitneyswhit...@journyx.com wrote: I'd like to phone in with a slightly different opinion on VACUUM FULL. Yeah, it should be avoided when possible, but it's not always possible. In our case, I've got 300ish databases backing to a single database server.

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Whitney
...@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-admin-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Spencer Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:02 PM To: kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov; scott.li...@enterprisedb.com Cc: scott.marl...@gmail.com; pgsql-admin@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Scott Whitney escribió: I'd like to phone in with a slightly different opinion on VACUUM FULL. Yeah, it should be avoided when possible, but it's not always possible. In our case, I've got 300ish databases backing to a single database server. Each of those dbs has a couple of hundred tables

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Whitney
I'd like to phone in with a slightly different opinion on VACUUM FULL. Yeah, it should be avoided when possible, but it's not always possible. In our case, I've got 300ish databases backing to a single database server. Each of those dbs has a couple of hundred tables and a hundred or more

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Jennifer Spencer
You are sure that the XID wraparound is gone? That's good news. No other reasons for vacuum full on the entire database. We could do it a table at a time if we absolutely have to do it, and that would minimize down time on the rest of the system. -Jennifer I _think_ autovacuum,

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Scott Mead
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jennifer Spencer jenniferm...@hotmail.comwrote: You are sure that the XID wraparound is gone? That's good news. No other reasons for vacuum full on the entire database. I think we're talking apples and gorillas on the use of the word 'full'. There is

Re: [ADMIN] Catching up Production from Warm Standby aftermaintenance - Please help

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Jennifer Spencer jenniferm...@hotmail.com wrote: We do mostly inserts, no updates and very few deletes. We drop entire tables but don't delete often. We have very long rows, though. Do you think the above is a situation likely to create extreme bloat? No. Only deletes and updates can