Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread Szymon Guz
On 7 May 2013 03:54, Uwe Schroeder u...@oss4u.com wrote: On Mon, 05/06/2013 05:51:00 PM Scott Marlowe wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Misa Simic misa.si...@gmail.com wrote: But, IMO it is something totally irrelevant now-days... With today tools... I understand why such thing

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread robin
Hi, Personally I prefer top posts for short responses to a simple issue and in- between posts for everything more complex. And then, when some people will top post, som bottom post and some will answer inside the original email lines, then there will be a totall mess and most people will

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread Eduardo Morras
I don't agree. Yes. Perhaps. Now, it's your work to know to what part of your original mail I'm answering. But, when you reply, the parts not relevant in the conversation should be erased. On Mon, 6 May 2013 11:15:09 -0700 Craig James cja...@emolecules.com wrote: Just out of curiousity, I

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread Stephen Cook
On 5/6/2013 2:15 PM, Craig James wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom posting has

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread Geoff Winkless
On 7 May 2013 08:37, Stephen Cook scli...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't matter to me at all, I just go with whatever is generally accepted by the mailing list (or perhaps, whatever is generally accepted by the most vocal part of the mailing list). Although, I only ever really did the whole

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-07 Thread Jim Mercer
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 03:37:07AM -0400, Stephen Cook wrote: Most other replies don't require the precision-quoting. i read this as: most other replies are so far below my dignity, you don't deserve that much of my attention. unless, of course, you piss me off, then i will put on my magic

[ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Craig James
Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom posting has traditionally been considered rude -- it forces

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Szymon Guz
On 6 May 2013 20:15, Craig James cja...@emolecules.com wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Craig James wrote: Contributors in these newsgroups seem to think it's OK to quote five pages of someone else's response, then add one or two sentences at the bottom ... it's just laziness that forces readers to wade through the same stuff over and over in each thread. How did the Postgres

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Gilberto Castillo
Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom posting has traditionally been considered rude -- it forces

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Tom Lane
Craig James cja...@emolecules.com writes: I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom posting has traditionally been considered rude -- it forces readers to scroll, often through pages and pages of

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:15:09AM -0700, Craig James wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). top posting is just lazy. bottom posting, equally so. one should be replying in-line, with context, and removing extraneous content.

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 08:25:25PM +0200, Szymon Guz wrote: We are reading from top to bottom. That's why people should answer below cited text, so we can read it later normally. I mean that I should read first the part of email you answer to, and than below your answer.

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:25:25PM +0200, Szymon Guz wrote: That's strange. I've never met any newsgroup which would require top posting. Top posting has always been considered rude. We are reading from top to bottom. That's why people should answer below cited text, so we can read it later

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Craig James
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Szymon Guz mabew...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 May 2013 20:15, Craig James cja...@emolecules.com wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). We are reading from top to bottom. That's why people should

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:55:41AM -0700, Craig James wrote: My real gripe is with laziness, not bottom posting. Anyone who can't spend a minute to edit quoted material to the relevant part is forcing thousands of readers to wade through irrelevant crap. It's inconsiderate. How about

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Kellerer
Szymon Guz, 06.05.2013 20:25: That's strange. I've never met any newsgroup which would require top posting. Top posting has always been considered rude. We are reading from top to bottom. That's why people should answer below cited text, so we can read it later normally. I mean that I should

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 10:20:30PM +0200, Thomas Kellerer wrote: With a newsreader that show threads instead of individual messages it's easier to read a top-post answer because you don't need to scroll down. it is important to note that people use a variety of tools to read mailing lists,

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Craig James
Regarding top posting versus bottom posting, pretty almost everyone who has commented agrees that top versus bottom posting isn't the problem. It's laziness about editing, perhaps exacerbated by certain email systems that encourage that laziness. So how about this: instead of demanding PLEASE

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Kellerer spam_ea...@gmx.net wrote: I personally don't really care, but what I really find annoying are bottom posters that do not trim the quoted message - especially if the original message was quite long. Especially if there are dozens of untrimmed

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Misa Simic
On Monday, May 6, 2013, Craig James wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom posting has

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Misa Simic misa.si...@gmail.com wrote: But, IMO it is something totally irrelevant now-days... With today tools... I understand why such thing has been important 20-30 years ago (in previous century) You're assuming we all use the same tools. There are still

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Julian
On 07/05/13 04:15, Craig James wrote: Just out of curiousity, I see comments like this all the time: (*please* stop top-posting). So people can... I've been participating in newsgroups since UUCP days, and I've never encountered a group before that encouraged bottom posting. Bottom

Re: [ADMIN] top posting?

2013-05-06 Thread Uwe Schroeder
On Mon, 05/06/2013 05:51:00 PM Scott Marlowe wrote: On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Misa Simic misa.si...@gmail.com wrote: But, IMO it is something totally irrelevant now-days... With today tools... I understand why such thing has been important 20-30 years ago (in previous century)