Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] log_line_info

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Bruce Momjian wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Nice. Only two comments --- does this mean we should remove log_pid? Seems it is now duplicate functionality. Is that the only duplication? Also, I don't see any documention changes in the patch, but I assume you will work on that before final.

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] log_line_info

2004-02-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >Nice. Only two comments --- does this mean we should remove log_pid? > >Seems it is now duplicate functionality. Is that the only duplication? > >Also, I don't see any documention changes in the patch, but I assume you > >will work on that before final. > > > > I will d

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Tim Larson
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 09:23:48PM -0500, Alex J. Avriette wrote: > On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:39:40AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > >> Have you tried diffing pg_dump output? It's not the greatest tool but > > >> it's helpful. > > > > > Yes, I did. It was quite cumbersome. Especially since the

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Tim Larson
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:35:59AM +0100, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > Why GForge? > > GForge seems to be technically OK. But what about the future outlook. The home > page lists 5 projects, whereof the 4 are tests. Are you sure they will not > fold in a month or two, will they be reliable, respon

Re: [HACKERS] Enterprice support in PostgreSQL

2004-02-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
George A.J wrote: > Hi all, > > We are providing database solutions in postgreSQL... > Now using PostgreSQL 7.3. It is performing well. > But Now we have some enterprice level requirements. > One of Our requirement is to provide a distributed solution in PostgreSQL. > The questions are... > 1. I

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3.6 for Monday ... still a go?

2004-02-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> I'm looking at doing the bundle up on Sunday night, and announce on Monday >> ... any outstanding back-patches that need to get in? Tom/Bruce, on >> scheduale for doing the docs changes? > I can package up this week, but not t

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Alex J. Avriette
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:39:40AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Have you tried diffing pg_dump output? It's not the greatest tool but > >> it's helpful. > > > Yes, I did. It was quite cumbersome. Especially since the OIDs and > > TOC entry numbers didn't matchup; and, since those didn't always

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Tom Lane
Richard Huxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been looking at storing $REVISION$ in comments for each object, so my > install scripts can halt if there is a problem. Not wanting to use my only > comment slot for this I was thinking about an extension to the COMMENT ON > statement: > COMMENT

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> Why GForge? GForge seems to be technically OK. But what about the future outlook. The home page lists 5 projects, whereof the 4 are tests. Are you sure they will not fold in a month or two, will they be reliable, responsive and real nice (the three r's) ? -- Kaare Rasmussen--Lin

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Bort, Paul
Ordering the pg_dump output by name within classes instead of OID sounds good to me, too. Also, something that might be easier for comparing schemata between databases: rather than dumping the database, have you tried using PostgreSQL Autodoc (http://www.rbt.ca/autodoc/) which just outputs the sc

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Bort, Paul
Janos, So far, all of the solutions that are being seriously considered seem to be free, open-source software. I can't find any indication on your site that this is software the PostgreSQL community can hack to bits as needed over the years. Even if it's free now, there's the possibility that it

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Any Gentoo users interested in a slotted PostgreSQL

2004-02-28 Thread Gavin M. Roy
I dont see a real need for slots, but I do question why the 7.4 branch isnt marked as stable yet. :) Gavin Jyry Kuukkanen wrote: Hello Are there any Gentoo users here? Yes, there are some :) Do you wish the PostgreSQL ebuild made use of SLOTS? - to allow installing of major version

Re: [HACKERS] Pl/Java - next step?

2004-02-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > "Thomas Hallgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ** 4. Make the postmaster spawn threads rather than processes ** > > I know this is very controversial and perhaps I should not bring it up at > > all. But then again, why not? Most readers are open-minded right? > > It's been con

Re: [HACKERS] pg_xlog

2004-02-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
qmis wrote: > Hi all > > How can i read transactions from "write ahead log " pg_xlog ? > It is possible ? No, it is all binary and read only on startup after a crash. If you want to interpret it, you have to read the backend code that reads it during recovery. -- Bruce Momjian

Re: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread David Costa
On Feb 26, 2004, at 6:53 PM, Joseph Tate wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: Folks, Discuss: Has anyone talked to the people at collabnet (http://www.collab.net)? I wonder if they'd be willing to put something together for the PostgreSQL team? They run the tigris.org site, which is one of the nicest O

[HACKERS] API Layers within Postgres

2004-02-28 Thread Chad
Hi Thinking of producing a modified version of Postgres to allow clients bypass the SQL type intefaces. How easy is to to get cursor access to the indexes and fine grained control of the transaction system, are their fairly clean internal APIs I can leverage. Cheers Chad --

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Any Gentoo users interested in a slotted PostgreSQL

2004-02-28 Thread Jyry Kuukkanen
Hello > Are there any Gentoo users here? Yes, there are some :) > Do you wish the PostgreSQL ebuild made use of SLOTS? > - to allow installing of major versions together (eg. 7.3 and 7.4 on the > same host) > - to ease migration of databases to new major versions (where a > dump/reload is r

[HACKERS] How to get Relation name from Oid ??

2004-02-28 Thread Halasipuram seshadri ramanujam
Hello , Can somebody please tell me how to get the name of the relation (Attribute also) from the Oid and the otherway back (Oid from name) ?? thanks -Ramu = " Karyathuranaam na Sukham na Nidhra " www.it.iitb.ac.in/~ramu __

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, Tim Perdue sent me this. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco --- Begin Message --- Josh Berkus wrote: Tim, To follow up on the previous question, there are a few features that I'm not seeing in the GForge demo online. These are all features that our developers w

[HACKERS] BTrees with record numbers

2004-02-28 Thread Chad
Is it possible for Postgres Btrees to support access by logical row number ? If not available is ti a huge job to support for sombebody willing to have a go ? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread janos
Hi, please look at CodeBeamer (www.intland.com) it has all featured you described and for selected open source projects is free now. It is a web based collaborative software development platform with -project tracking (dashboard) -tracker -document manager (sharing + versioning) -forum -cvs, Subve

Re: [HACKERS] Thread safe connection-name mapping in ECPG. Is it

2004-02-28 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 27 February 2004 22:24, Lee Kindness wrote: > Sort of related, I was thinking about adding some more thread-related > code such that if a connection wasn't explicitely specified then the > last connection SET or CONNECTed to for the current thread is used, > rather than just the "last con

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] Collaboration Tool Proposal

2004-02-28 Thread elein
There is a roundup version for postgresql. I have not tried it. For python people, this is the ultimate solution. It is customizable to death. I have the mailing list archives for the last couple of months. I like round up and use it. It has a great email interface and a "nosy" list feature which

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Why does app fail?

2004-02-28 Thread Paul Simpson
Shridhar Daithankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 25/02/2004 10:31:16 On Wednesday 25 February 2004 15:38, Paul Simpson wrote:>> Thank you for the advice, unfortunately, that isn't an option, you see I>> didn't write the application and so cannot control the calls it makes. What>> I need is

Re: [HACKERS] RFC: Very large scale postgres support

2004-02-28 Thread ElPeddy
Alex, In our quest to see if we can get better performance out of PostgreSQL by throwing more HW at it, I would have recommended a V880 also. I'm curious to find out why you would have: "(in the past, I would have suggested a Sun V880 for this database, but we are using Linux on x86)" too. Cheers

[HACKERS] Arbitrary collation support for PostgreSQL

2004-02-28 Thread Honza Pazdziora
Hello all, PostgreSQL, at least until version 7.4, has rather weak support for various collating sequences. What you get when you do select * from table order by column is hardcoded in the database cluster at the initdb time. Yet, it is reasonable request to want one select to order by

Re: [HACKERS] Pl/Java - next step?

2004-02-28 Thread HORNYAK Laszlo
Hi all! Sorry for my latencies. An IRC chat is ok for me, anytime. On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Thomas Hallgren wrote: > I'm in Sweden. Some time tuesday evening (european time) perhaps? > > Why is your work not made public somewhere? The project on sourceforge is > inactive it seem

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] update i386 spinlock for hyperthreading

2004-02-28 Thread Kenneth Marshall
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 05:26:46AM -0500, Neil Conway wrote: > "Simon Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>Kenneth Marshall would like me to post this: > >> I agree that in order to manage today's large memory machines, we > >> need to have less contention in our buffer management strategies. > >

[HACKERS] dbt-2 tests & profiling on ia64

2004-02-28 Thread David Mosberger
Mark, > On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:42:34 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mark> http://developer.osdl.org/markw/ia64/dbt2/ Mark> I have a summary of intial results from our DBT-2 workload with Mark> PostgreSQL 7.4.1 on a 4-way Itanium2 system with 16GB of memory and 56 Mark> drives us

[HACKERS] Enterprice support in PostgreSQL

2004-02-28 Thread George A.J
Hi all,   We are providing database solutions in postgreSQL...Now using PostgreSQL 7.3. It is performing well. But Now we have some enterprice level requirements. One of Our requirement is to provide a distributed solution in PostgreSQL. The questions are...1. Is it posible to provide a distributed

Re: [HACKERS] Two-phase commit

2004-02-28 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Please have a look and comment, the patches can be found here: > > http://www.iki.fi/hlinnaka/pgsql/ > > > > What is the schedule for 7.5? Any chance of getting this in? > > 7.5 is certainly possible. We are months away from beta on 7.5 and I > would l

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3.6 for Monday ... still a go?

2004-02-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I'm looking at doing the bundle up on Sunday night, and announce on Monday > ... any outstanding back-patches that need to get in? Tom/Bruce, on > scheduale for doing the docs changes? I can package up this week, but not this weekend, and we should have the release it

Re: [HACKERS] Avoid MVCC using exclusive lock possible?

2004-02-28 Thread Jon Jensen
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Stephen wrote: > It came to my mind that what if there could be a mechanism in place to allow > overwriting portions of the same row *whenever possible* instead of creating > a new row as MVCC would require. How would you do a rollback if an error occurred mid-query? How woul

Re: [HACKERS] Too-many-files errors on OS X

2004-02-28 Thread Vic Abell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lane) wrote in message (in part) > ... > Hmm. This may be OS-specific. The shlibs certainly show up in the > output of lsof in every variant I've checked, but do they count against > your open-file limit? >From the lsof FAQ: > 5.2 Why doesn't Apple Darwin lsof report te

[HACKERS] Avoid MVCC using exclusive lock possible?

2004-02-28 Thread Stephen
Hi, Recently, I ran a huge update on an Integer column affecting 100 million rows in my database. What happened was my disk space increased in size and my IO load was very high. It appears that MVCC wants to rewrite each row (each row was about 5kB due to a bytea column). In addition, VACUUM needs

Re: [HACKERS] [SQL] Materialized View Summary

2004-02-28 Thread Jonathan Gardner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 24 February 2004 01:48 pm, Robert Treat wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 12:11, Richard Huxton wrote: > > On Tuesday 24 February 2004 16:11, Jonathan M. Gardner wrote: > > > I've written a summary of my findings on implementing and using > > >

[HACKERS] postgres Mac OS X startup script

2004-02-28 Thread Ray Aspeitia
Hello, I wanted to submit some changes to the bundled postgres startup script for Mac OS X. I added calls to utilize the bundled apache rotatelogs script in the DB startup for log rotation. Also modified startup parameters file to allow using the "SystemStarter" utility to start/stop/restart p

[HACKERS] 7.3.6 for Monday ... still a go?

2004-02-28 Thread Marc G. Fournier
I'm looking at doing the bundle up on Sunday night, and announce on Monday ... any outstanding back-patches that need to get in? Tom/Bruce, on scheduale for doing the docs changes? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] How to get Relation name from Oid ??

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Huxton
On Saturday 28 February 2004 18:47, Ramanujam H S Iyengar wrote: > Hello , > > Can somebody please tell me how to get the name of the relation (Attribute > also) from the Oid and the otherway back (Oid from name) ?? The pg_class table is what you want. See the system-tables chapter of the manuals

[HACKERS] How to get Relation name from Oid ??

2004-02-28 Thread Ramanujam H S Iyengar
Hello , Can somebody please tell me how to get the name of the relation (Attribute also) from the Oid and the otherway back (Oid from name) ?? thanks -Ramu _ Masterpieces made affordable! Buy art prints. http://go.msnserver.com/IN/

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Michael Brusser
Interestingly I tried to address the same problem few days ago. I used pg_dump, grep, etc - in the end I got what I needed, but it was a cumbersome ordeal. I think ideally it would be great to have a utility that would give me a clean diff. between the schemas. Perhaps pg_dump could have a new ar

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Richard Huxton
On Saturday 28 February 2004 15:39, Tom Lane wrote: > Mark Lubratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Feb 27, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Mark Lubratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> I've been trying to be careful, but I've gotten out of synch with > >>> whether or not I've applied th

[HACKERS] cvs: mislinked plpgsql.so ?

2004-02-28 Thread strk
Working with current CVS: $ createlang plpgsql createlang: language installation failed: ERROR: could not load library "/pgroot-cvs/lib/postgresql/plpgsql.so": /pgroot-cvs/lib/postgresql/plpgsql.so: undefined symbol: downcase_truncate_identifier --strk; ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] cvs: mislinked plpgsql.so ?

2004-02-28 Thread Tom Lane
strk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Working with current CVS: > $ createlang plpgsql > createlang: language installation failed: > ERROR: could not load library "/pgroot-cvs/lib/postgresql/plpgsql.so": > /pgroot-cvs/lib/postgresql/plpgsql.so: > undefined symbol: downcase_truncate_identifier

Re: [HACKERS] [ADMIN] Schema comparisons

2004-02-28 Thread Tom Lane
Mark Lubratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Feb 27, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Mark Lubratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> I've been trying to be careful, but I've gotten out of synch with >>> whether or not I've applied the changes I've made to the development >>> system to the produ

[HACKERS] cvs lock

2004-02-28 Thread Dennis Bjorklund
When I try to commit to cvs it gets stuck and outputs this messages every 30:th second: cvs server: [11:11:28] waiting for ishii's lock in /cvsroot/pgsql-server/src/bin/pg_controldata/po -- /Dennis Björklund ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the p