[HACKERS] Weirdness with =?

2006-01-30 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I had this code in a script: UPDATE food_foods SET included=true WHERE verification_status = 'I'; UPDATE food_foods SET included=false WHERE verification_status IS NULL; I tried replacing it with: UPDATE food_foods SET included=(verification_status = 'I'); However, that set included to true

Re: [HACKERS] GRANT/REVOKE: Allow column-level privileges

2006-01-30 Thread William ZHANG
2. deal with circles in GRANT graph. Can you give an examle for how this is any different for column-level GRANTs? When judging if there are any circles in the grant graph, we can represent table priviledges as column priviledges, thus make things easier. I have not think hard enought to

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Robert Treat wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 22:23, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Mark Kirkwood said: ... A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you. Then we could publish many many modules on pgfoundry, their authors could

Re: [HACKERS] Weirdness with

2006-01-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 04:44:21PM +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I had this code in a script: UPDATE food_foods SET included=true WHERE verification_status = 'I'; UPDATE food_foods SET included=false WHERE verification_status IS NULL; I tried replacing it with: UPDATE food_foods

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 10:25:39AM +0100, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Actually I don't think it would be all that hard. You just need to have each project produce an xml file with bits of package information (name, dependencies, version info, etc...) which could then be combined with all the

Re: [HACKERS] Question about postgresql-8.1.2-1-binaries-no-installer.zip(win32)

2006-01-30 Thread Magnus Hagander
It's used for ecpg, IIRC, when compiled in thread-safe mode. //Magnus Thanks Magnus, Here is another question for you. Is it documented anywhere or does someone know what is the bare minimum requirements to run the server on a production box? No, I don't think so :-) I want to

Re: [HACKERS] Question about postgresql-8.1.2-1-binaries-no-installer.zip(win32)

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Magnus Hagander wrote: I want to create the litest possible setup for use in my IM server (Lightning Messenger), and eliminate any unneeded files so I can have the smallest setup I can get. I already have a complete working setup built with Inno setup(it's 4.8 mb), now I just need to get

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Josh Berkus wrote: Andrew, A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you. Then we could publish many many modules on pgfoundry, their authors could look after them, and installing them would be trivial. pgxs should

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Michael Fuhr wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 12:20:25PM +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:23 , Andrew Dunstan wrote: A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you. CPAN modules, Ruby

Re: [HACKERS] GRANT/REVOKE: Allow column-level privileges

2006-01-30 Thread Raymond
kevin brintnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... (SQL99, 10.5 privileges, General Rules, 15-18) 15) SELECT with neither privilege column list nor privilege method list specifies the SELECT privilege on all columns of T including any

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Andrew Dunstan wrote: Michael Fuhr wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 12:20:25PM +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:23 , Andrew Dunstan wrote: A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you.

Re: [HACKERS] stats for failed transactions (was Re: [GENERAL] VACUUM

2006-01-30 Thread Jan Wieck
On 1/27/2006 10:53 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Tom Lane wrote: I think this is the fault of the stats system design. AFAICT from a quick look at the code, inserted/updated/deleted tuples are reported to the collector in the same way regardless of whether the sending transaction committed or

Re: [HACKERS] stats for failed transactions (was Re: [GENERAL] VACUUM

2006-01-30 Thread Jan Wieck
On 1/27/2006 10:56 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: I think this is unquestionably a bug, at least for autovacuum's purposes --- though it might be OK for the original intent of the stats system, which was simply to track activity levels. Any

Re: [HACKERS] Weirdness with =?

2006-01-30 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried replacing it with: UPDATE food_foods SET included=(verification_status = 'I'); However, that set included to true only where verification_status=I, it didn't set false at all. You'd have gotten NULL, not FALSE, at the rows where

Re: [HACKERS] GRANT/REVOKE: Allow column-level privileges

2006-01-30 Thread Tom Lane
William ZHANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another problem is, should we allow any circles to be formed when executing GRANTs? This is already prohibited. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked

[HACKERS] win32 server question

2006-01-30 Thread Tony Caduto
Hi, Does anyone know how the win32 server checks if the user is non priveleged? Does it just check if the user is in the admin or power user group? Thanks, -- Tony Caduto AM Software Design Home of PG Lightning Admin for Postgresql http://www.amsoftwaredesign.com

Re: [HACKERS] win32 server question

2006-01-30 Thread Magnus Hagander
Hi, Does anyone know how the win32 server checks if the user is non priveleged? Does it just check if the user is in the admin or power user group? Yes and yes. See http://developer.postgresql.org/cvsweb.cgi/pgsql/src/backend/port/win32/ security.c?rev=1.9 //Magnus

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 08:25, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Josh Berkus wrote: Andrew, A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you. Then we could publish many many modules on pgfoundry, their authors could look

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 09:01, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Michael Fuhr wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 12:20:25PM +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:23 , Andrew Dunstan wrote: A nicer idea would be something like a

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Frank Wiles
On 30 Jan 2006 11:35:13 -0500 Robert Treat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPAN modules, Ruby gems, PgFoundry ingots? :) Tusks? (Extensions of the elephant.) Trunks? Dung? gives a whole new meaning to the term package delivery What about calling it

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 10:01:58PM +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Andrew Dunstan wrote: Michael Fuhr wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 12:20:25PM +0900, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 30, 2006, at 12:23 , Andrew Dunstan wrote: A nicer idea would be something like a

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 10:25:39AM +0100, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Robert Treat wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 22:23, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Mark Kirkwood said: ... A nicer idea would be something like a utility could we ship that will download, build and install module foo for you. Then we

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 03:15:06PM -0500, Mark Woodward wrote: Postgres generally seems to favor extensibility over integration, and I generally agree with that approach. I generally agree as well, but. I think there is always a balance between out of the box vs extensibility. I

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Mark Woodward
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 03:15:06PM -0500, Mark Woodward wrote: Postgres generally seems to favor extensibility over integration, and I generally agree with that approach. I generally agree as well, but. I think there is always a balance between out of the box vs extensibility. I

[HACKERS] Policy on schema-qualified names

2006-01-30 Thread Joachim Wieland
I wonder if there is a policy on when schema-qualified names should be used in ereport/elog messages. At the moment this doesn't seem to be consistent, even within the same command: template1=# VACUUM verbose t; INFO: vacuuming public.t [...] template1=# VACUUM verbose tv; WARNING: skipping

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Mark Woodward wrote: It gets so frustrating sometimes, it isn't so black and white, there are many levels of gray. The PostgreSQL project is trying so hard to be neutral, that it is making itself irrelevant. We are making ourselves irrelevant because we encourage the use

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Robert Treat wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 22:23, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Mark Kirkwood said: Mark Woodward wrote: There should e a big huge button and/or link to pgfountry that shows how much is availale to PostgreSQL. While there are links to 'em mentioned on the

Re: [HACKERS] Policy on schema-qualified names

2006-01-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joachim Wieland wrote: I wonder if there is a policy on when schema-qualified names should be used in ereport/elog messages. If it's not too hard to do, I would add the schema name in most places. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Secondly, if there is a large group of users who want this, why doesn't someone do it? Any one of them could take the source, and produce a bundle (say a PostgresPHP Plus Pack) that has all the features you think should be in there. If they can demonstrate they can maintain it, perhaps the

[HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some people. Our Windows Installer is very attractive, for example. Now, I and Burcu Guzel, who is a Senior Programmer, decided to launch a new project:

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgnixinstaller/ We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase, if you join us

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the prebuilt binaries from PostgreSQL FTP site (and possible

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: What value does this bring to systems that have a good package system and up-to-date repositories? I can install Postgres today on Ubuntu using a GUI tool, and install another GUI tool to

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:27 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote: OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the prebuilt

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:03 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: Certainly you can install pre-built binaries without a compiler, and let the user choose database location, autovacuum settings and stuff like that. That's another good point. We can adjust many settings before installing.

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 21:34 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: OTOH, exluding Synaptic that I hate to use, FC / RH does not have a GUI RPM interface for the repositories. So our installer will help them a lot. Also, our installer will have an option to download and install the prebuilt

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:31 -0500, Doug McNaught wrote: You can install, but what if you need different configure options than the package provides? This means a rebuild of the package. Instead, we will build and install that package via the installer. That's actually a pretty cool

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Robert Treat
On Monday 30 January 2006 16:21, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Robert Treat wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 22:23, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Mark Kirkwood said: Mark Woodward wrote: There should e a big huge button and/or link to pgfountry that shows how much is availale to

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR. Wow, how do you update the kernel each week? :) More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets done after installing is to customize the kernel to get rid of all the 'cruft'

Re: [HACKERS] Want to add to contrib.... xmldbx

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Robert Treat wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 16:21, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Robert Treat wrote: On Sunday 29 January 2006 22:23, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Mark Kirkwood said: Mark Woodward wrote: There should e a big huge button and/or link to

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
Hi, On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 22:04 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: BTW, gcc is not installed on by default AFAIR. Wow, how do you update the kernel each week? :) More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets done after installing is to customize the kernel to get

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat does not provide support if I do so :) Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some mammoth kernel running on your system, do you? with every conceivable

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: More seriously, I know under FreeBSD, one of the first things that gets done after installing is to customize the kernel to get rid of all the 'cruft' part of the generic kernel, I take it that this isn't something that ppl do with Linux? The Linux kernel has

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Jonah H. Harris
I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack). Just my 2 cents :) On 1/30/06, Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,On Mon, 2006-01-30

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Doug McNaught
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat does not provide support if I do so :) Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some mammoth kernel running on

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for Linux/Unix systems

2006-01-30 Thread Christopher Browne
We are actively looking for developers for the project. Please drop me an e-mail if you want to join this project. We will use Python, so you need to be a Python guy to join the project. We are in planning phase, if you join us earlier, we will be able to share more ideas. You'd better

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jan 30, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: However none of them are PostgreSQL Installers, none of them has the ability to customize the packages and none of them has the ability to install the community packages, etc. :) You need to take a sniff over at the FreeBSD ports. Lets you

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: On my RHEL boxes, I do never ever recompile the kernel since Red Hat does not provide support if I do so :) Is everything 'loadable modules' then? I can't imagine you have some mammoth kernel running on your system, do

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the command apt-get install postgresql-8.1, which can get GUIed at least somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... Yes Christopher, you can... I can, and Devrim can As more and more people come on board people are

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote: On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the command apt-get install postgresql-8.1, which can get GUIed at least somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... Yes Christopher, you can... I can, and Devrim can As

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Rick Gigger
I don't see why anyone has a problem with this. I am certainly never going to use it but if it helps someone who isn't a linux person to use it on a project when they would have used something else (like mysql) or if it convinces someone to run postgres on linux instead of windows because

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 19:52 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: On my Debian systems, I can install PostgreSQL quite readily via the command apt-get install postgresql-8.1, which can get GUIed at least somewhat if I run aptitude, synaptic, or such... Yes Christopher, you can... I can, and

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tony Caduto
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Have you looked at AutoPackage? http://autopackage.org screen shots. http://autopackage.org/gallery.html Has a GUI wizard if X windows is available and a command line wizard if no X is available. Using autopackage is similar to using MSI,Wise,Inno etc on Windows.

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Oracle's graphical installer is a material impediment to Oracle adoption. The installer only works on systems where particular versions of Java and Motif libraries are available. On 64-bit Opteron systems it only works with the peculiar 32-bit thunking tree favored by Red Hat and hardly

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:53 -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Oracle's graphical installer is a material impediment to Oracle adoption. The installer only works on systems where particular versions of Java and Motif libraries are available. On 64-bit Opteron systems it only works with the

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Josh Berkus
Jeff, So why don't you just do that with Postgres? You could call it Bootable PostgreSQL. It would be a big hit. When a new version comes out, you can just mail out a new DVD. Actually, we have these. We give them out at conferences. --Josh ---(end of

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Steve Atkins
On Jan 30, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Tony Caduto wrote: Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: Have you looked at AutoPackage? http://autopackage.org screen shots. http://autopackage.org/gallery.html Has a GUI wizard if X windows is available and a command line wizard if no X is available. Using autopackage

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, As you know, many databases that run on Linux / Unix systems have a GUI installer which make installation easier and more attractive for some people. If you think of the *racle-GUI-Installer, most people find it very s*cking ;) Our Windows Installer is very

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, ... Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or put everything in /usr/local? We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;) RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;) ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Jonah H. Harris schrieb: I had to deal with an installer written in python and several in Java... IMHO, Java would be a better language for this and you could build off some nice OSS installers that already exist (such as IzPack). Just my 2 cents :) Yes! Use Java for ultimate suckiness of

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Joshua D. Drake schrieb: ... As more and more people come on board people are going to want to download a .exe (a metaphor), double click and have it open an installer, they will then want to click next, next, continue, finish. You don't get that with apt-get install. Well you can use a

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI

2006-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Tino Wildenhain wrote: Devrim GUNDUZ schrieb: Hi, ... Are you going to work with the underlying system's package manager, or put everything in /usr/local? We'll work with the package manager -- I'm an RPM guy ;) RPM isnt the only packaging system out there ;) I

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Rick Gigger schrieb: I don't see why anyone has a problem with this. I am certainly never going to use it but if it helps someone who isn't a linux person to use it on a project when they would have used something else (like mysql) or if it convinces someone to run postgres on linux

Re: [HACKERS] New project launched : PostgreSQL GUI Installer for

2006-01-30 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: There is a reason that even Oracle has a graphical installer on Linux, because most people installing the software: A. Don't know how to use it B. Probably don't know how to use Linux C. Don't want to. Except that the Oracle graphical