Re: [HACKERS] Nasty VACUUM/bgwriter/segmentation bug

2006-11-18 Thread Tom Lane
Russell Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> What is happening is that during that 30-second wait, the bgwriter is >> dumping out all the dirty pages, and acquiring open file references >> to each segment of table "foo" as it does so. The VACUUM then truncates >> "foo" back to ze

Re: [HACKERS] Ontology on PostgreSQL - is there something?

2006-11-18 Thread Mike Rylander
On 11/18/06, Rodrigo Hjort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear PG-hackers, Based on the paper below [1], I ask: is there anyone working on, or already tried to such native implementation on PostgreSQL? I didn't find anything related on pgFoundry. There is also a presentation [2] related to the paper

Re: [HACKERS] Nasty VACUUM/bgwriter/segmentation bug

2006-11-18 Thread Russell Smith
Tom Lane wrote: While working on fixing the recently reported hash-index problem, I was using a test build with a very small RELSEG_SIZE (128K), so that I could trigger the reported bug with a reasonably small amount of data. And I started finding some unexpected data corruption. I eventually re

Re: [HACKERS] Ontology on PostgreSQL - is there something?

2006-11-18 Thread David Boreham
Josh Berkus wrote: That I don't understand what they're talking about. What's "Ontology" in a database sense? Can you give some examples? You'll need to RTFP , which in all fairness the OP did cite in his posting : http://www.cs.toronto.edu/vldb04/protected/eProceedings/contents/pdf/I

[HACKERS] Nasty VACUUM/bgwriter/segmentation bug

2006-11-18 Thread Tom Lane
While working on fixing the recently reported hash-index problem, I was using a test build with a very small RELSEG_SIZE (128K), so that I could trigger the reported bug with a reasonably small amount of data. And I started finding some unexpected data corruption. I eventually reduced it to this t

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Allowing SYSDATE to Work

2006-11-18 Thread Josh Berkus
Matt, > I now agree completely. My purpose is to migrate Oracle databases to > Posgres, and I had thought that Oracle didn't support CURRENT_DATE, > CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, and so on. However, I've just learned otherwise. So, > I think the proper migration process for a production database would be >

Re: [HACKERS] Ontology on PostgreSQL - is there something?

2006-11-18 Thread Josh Berkus
Rodrigo, > Besides, what are your opinions on the subject? That I don't understand what they're talking about. What's "Ontology" in a database sense? Can you give some examples? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)

Re: [HACKERS] [Fwd: Index Advisor]

2006-11-18 Thread Kai-Uwe Sattler
Hi Gurjeet, I will look at the pg_advise bug and will send a patch ASAP. Best, Kai Am 15.11.2006 um 15:34 schrieb Gurjeet Singh: BUGS: = .) The SELECTs in the pg_advise are returning wrong results, when the same index is suggested twice, because of the SUM() aggregates. .) I doubt that o

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch's configuration

2006-11-18 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Oleg Bartunov wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > >>> I am also a bit concerned that the names of the proposed objects (parser, >>> dictionary) don't convey their purpose adequately. Maybe TS_DICTIONARY and >>> TS_PARSER might be better if we in fact ne

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with

2006-11-18 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> Oleg Bartunov wrote: >>> So, if we'll not touch grammar, are there any issues with tsearch2 in >>> core ? >> Are there any issues with tsearch2 not in core? >> > > > Quite apart from anything else, it really needs documentation of the > standard

[HACKERS] Ontology on PostgreSQL - is there something?

2006-11-18 Thread Rodrigo Hjort
Dear PG-hackers, Based on the paper below [1], I ask: is there anyone working on, or already tried to such native implementation on PostgreSQL? I didn't find anything related on pgFoundry. There is also a presentation [2] related to the paper. "By Souripriya Das, Eugene Inseok Chong, George Eado

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch'sconfiguration

2006-11-18 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Andrew Dunstan wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Oleg Bartunov wrote: So, if we'll not touch grammar, are there any issues with tsearch2 in core ? Are there any issues with tsearch2 not in core? Quite apart from anything else, it really needs documentation of the standa

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with

2006-11-18 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Oleg Bartunov wrote: >> So, if we'll not touch grammar, are there any issues with tsearch2 in >> core ? > > Are there any issues with tsearch2 not in core? > Quite apart from anything else, it really needs documentation of the standard we give other core features. I thi

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch's configur

2006-11-18 Thread Dave Page
> --- Original Message --- > From: Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jeremy Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 18/11/06, 07:30:48 > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch's > configuration > > Jeremy Drake wrote: > > I am currently in the position that

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Allowing SYSDATE to Work

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Miller
> > Why should we add this Oraclism to PostgreSQL? I doesn't add any new > > feature. > > Certainly, this feature falls well within the class of completely > gratuitous proprietary extensions that we typically reject. I now agree completely. My purpose is to migrate Oracle databases to Posgres, a

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch'sconfiguration

2006-11-18 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Are there any issues with tsearch2 not in core? I have run into troubles when restoring a dump, especially across different versions of PostgreSQL and tsearch2. Mainly because pg_ts_* are not system tables and thus need to be restored or installed separately. An

Re: [HACKERS] Custom Data Type Question

2006-11-18 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Simon Riggs wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 16:38 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote: My little enumkit tool allows you to create enumerations today very easily, but its values are completely hardcoded. However, the above trick still works. The downside is that each enumeration type requires a tin

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Allowing SYSDATE to Work

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Miller
> > I found it interesting that gram.c and parse.h already supported SYSDATE. > > Only after you ran bison ;-). They're derived files. Well, so much for my conspiracy theory. Thanks for the bison lesson. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: You can he

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Allowing SYSDATE to Work

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Miller
> I suggest you to contribute this kind of code to orafce project [1] Thanks, I'll go play over there for a while. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Allowing SYSDATE to Work

2006-11-18 Thread Matt Miller
> > Can't keywords share code > > the way to do what you want I think is > like this: > > foo: bar_or_baz > { code block } >; > > bar_or_baz: bar | baz ; I'll try that, thanks. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your frie

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Shutting down a warm standby database in 8.2beta3

2006-11-18 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:40:36PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why not, after calling fork() create a new process group with setsid() and > > then instead of killing the recovery thread, kill the whole process group > > (-PID rather than PID)? Then every

Re: [HACKERS] Custom Data Type Question

2006-11-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 16:38 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > My little enumkit tool allows you to create enumerations today very > easily, but its values are completely hardcoded. However, the above > trick still works. The downside is that each enumeration type requires a > tiny bit of compilati

Fwd: [HACKERS] Remove contrib version of rtree_gist --- now in core system ?

2006-11-18 Thread jorge alberto
-- Forwarded message -- From: jorge alberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 17, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Remove contrib version of rtree_gist --- now in core system ? To: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hi ! thanks for writing! In postgresql version 8.0.9 the rtree_gist imp

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch'sconfiguration

2006-11-18 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Oleg Bartunov wrote: > So, if we'll not touch grammar, are there any issues with tsearch2 in > core ? Are there any issues with tsearch2 not in core? -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch'sconfiguration

2006-11-18 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006, Simon Riggs wrote: On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 00:13 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 03:53:35PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Having the supporting code in core does not make much of a difference otherwise from having it in contrib, does it? Given the non

Re: [HACKERS] Proposal: syntax of operation with tsearch'sconfiguration

2006-11-18 Thread Simon Riggs
On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 00:13 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 03:53:35PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Having the supporting code in core does not make much of a difference > > > otherwise from having it in contrib, does it? > > > > Given the nonextensibility of gram.y