On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:50:21PM -0400, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:50, Josh Berkus wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > > 1) There is an open source implementation of java
> >
> > Really? I thought Sun had a patent.
> www.blackdown.org
I'd rather not call this open source. From th
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 June 2002 12:12
> To: Dave Page
> Subject: RE: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 15:21, Dave Page wro
On 27 Jun 2002, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > > Also, someone suggested listing the by-month indexes back-to-front
> > > (most recent month first), which seems like a great idea if not
> > > difficult.
> >
> > Better?
> >
> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-jdbc
> >
> > The rest will 'fall in line'
On 26 Jun 2002 14:36:15 EDT, the world broke into rejoicing as
Dave Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Josh,
>
> 1) There is an open source implementation of java
> 2) The jdbc driver is much better than it was recently we have made lots
> of improvements, and it won't affect jpgadmin anyway. I
> > Also, someone suggested listing the by-month indexes back-to-front
> > (most recent month first), which seems like a great idea if not
> > difficult.
>
> Better?
>
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-jdbc
>
> The rest will 'fall in line' once there is something for mhonarc to work
> on a
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > http://archives.postgresql.org/ ... better?
>
> Yup, although I'd suggest making the classification line up with
> the one on the main website --- docs and cygwin are listed as
> developer lists there.
>
> A
Josh,
What do you see as the drawbacks with java, and how can they be
circumvented?
Dave
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:08, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Daves,
>
> > Would you consider java as a platform independant language? I have
> > started a project on sf.net called jpgadmin, but I see the duplication
>
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 14:50, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> > 1) There is an open source implementation of java
>
> Really? I thought Sun had a patent.
www.blackdown.org
>
> > 2) The jdbc driver is much better than it was recently we have made lots
> > of improvements, and it won't affect jp
osh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 26 June 2002 01:51
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: Rod Taylor
> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > > What would be a win is an SQL like interfac
Josh,
1) There is an open source implementation of java
2) The jdbc driver is much better than it was recently we have made lots
of improvements, and it won't affect jpgadmin anyway. I actually think
writing the admin tool in java will make the driver better.
3) Don't see this as a big issue we a
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> http://archives.postgresql.org/ ... better?
Yup, although I'd suggest making the classification line up with
the one on the main website --- docs and cygwin are listed as
developer lists there.
Also, someone suggested listing the by-month indexes
http://archives.postgresql.org/ ... better?
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> will do it tonight :)
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org?
> > > I know the
-patches added ... I've gotta redo that page, as it was just a
'quick-n-dirty' when I did it ...
On 27 Jun 2002, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > > Vince, we can get -advocacy listed on the web site? There has been no
> > > traffic over there until now, but there are ppl subscribed to it ...
> >
> > all
will do it tonight :)
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
> Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org?
> > I know the archives are created (I use them) but there is no obvious
> > link.
>
> > Secondly, could the links that
Rod Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org?
> I know the archives are created (I use them) but there is no obvious
> link.
> Secondly, could the links that do exist be ordered alphabetically?
I'm for that too. Every time I go
On 27 Jun 2002, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > > Vince, we can get -advocacy listed on the web site? There has been no
> > > traffic over there until now, but there are ppl subscribed to it ...
> >
> > all done.
>
> Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org?
> I know the archi
> > Vince, we can get -advocacy listed on the web site? There has been no
> > traffic over there until now, but there are ppl subscribed to it ...
>
> all done.
Any chance of getting a pgsql-patches link on archives.postgresql.org?
I know the archives are created (I use them) but there is no o
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 13:50, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> BTW, does anyone on this list know about Command Prompt, Inc.'s tools? There
> seems to be a lot of duplicte development going on in the commercial space.
I know for my PERSONAL stuff, commercial tools ($$) mean I don't even
bother. I have s
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Well hidden, but so far 86 have found it and subscribed to it *grin*
It's on the subscription form.
[snip]
> Vince, we can get -advocacy listed on the web site? There has been no
> traffic over there until now, but there are ppl subscribed to i
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:35:07 PDT, the world broke into rejoicing as
Josh Berkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > What do you see as the drawbacks with java, and how can they be
> > circumvented?
>
> 1. Java is not Open Source. It's an open standard, but not OS.
The problem is not with the languag
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Cramer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 June 2002 19:01
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rod Taylor
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
>
>
> Dave,
>
> Would you consid
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Sabino Mullane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 25 June 2002 20:04
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
> >
> >
> &g
Dave,
> 1) There is an open source implementation of java
Really? I thought Sun had a patent.
> 2) The jdbc driver is much better than it was recently we have made lots
> of improvements, and it won't affect jpgadmin anyway. I actually think
> writing the admin tool in java will make the drive
Dave,
> What do you see as the drawbacks with java, and how can they be
> circumvented?
1. Java is not Open Source. It's an open standard, but not OS.
2. I understand that there are some serious limitations to the current
Postgres JDBC drivers. I have not used them, so I'm reporting rumor,
Daves,
> Would you consider java as a platform independant language? I have
> started a project on sf.net called jpgadmin, but I see the duplication
> of effort as a waste of time.
Java has its drawbacks, but a JPgAdmin tool would significantly encourage
Postgres-OpenOffice.org integration.
--
Hi Tom,
Tom Lane wrote:
>
> "Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > You mean a list like ... oh, I don't know ...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]? :)
>
> You know, I seemed to remember that we had such a list, but I looked at
> http://archives.postgresql.org/
> and saw no archive for it, so I
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Berkus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 June 2002 01:51
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Rod Taylor
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
> > What would be a win is an SQL like in
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Sabino Mullane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 June 2002 20:04
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [HACKERS] Postgres idea list
>
>
> 12. Offer something "fun": a naming contest for the elephant (I know,
>
"Marc G. Fournier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
>> It also occurs to me that discussing this on -hackers, which is a
>> technically focused list, is itself somewhat wrongheaded. The best
>> list we have for it at the moment is -general, but I wonder whether w
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> Do people want an advocacy article written, like "How to choose a
> database?" I could do that.
That would be good, as would an updated "postgres vs mysql" article
to point people towards. Or a "postgres myths debunked" page.
> Basically, I am
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