Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-08-15 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2010/7/13 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: On 7/12/10 9:34 PM +0300, Tom Lane wrote: Marko Tiikkajamarko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi  writes: ... So what I'm now thinking of is making the planner plan that as a single Query, and make the planner expand it into multiple PlannedStmts

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-08-03 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2010/7/21 David Fetter da...@fetter.org: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:15:22AM +0900, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 2010/7/17 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: On 7/16/10 6:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 1. Use MaterialNode instead of adding DtScanNode. Since MaterialNode is exsiting

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-08-03 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
On 8/3/2010 7:30 PM, Hitoshi Harada wrote: As hackers say, the first to try should be Marko's first design that use the list of tuplestore and DTScanNode. So if he has solid image to reach there, we can wait for him to complete his first compilable version. Then let's take it back and forth. Is

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-20 Thread David Fetter
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:15:22AM +0900, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 2010/7/17 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: On 7/16/10 6:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 1. Use MaterialNode instead of adding DtScanNode. Since MaterialNode is exsiting one that work with single tuplestore, it

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-20 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Hitoshi Harada umi.tan...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/17 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: On 7/16/10 6:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 1. Use MaterialNode instead of adding DtScanNode. Since MaterialNode is exsiting one that work with single

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-20 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Merlin Moncure mmonc...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Use temp table instead of tuplestore list. Since we agreed we need to execute each plan one by one starting and shutting down executor, it now looks very simple strategy. I didn't look at this because I thought using

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-16 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2010/7/13 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: Hi, I've been working on writeable CTEs during the last couple of months, but right now it looks like I'm going to miss the first commit fest for 9.1.  I was trying to make it work by expanding all wCTEs to their own Queries during the

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-16 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
On 7/16/10 6:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: Sorry it's not relevant to the topic you post but .. Relevant enough :-) .. it seems you're going to add new executor node called DtScanNode and let it hold tuplestore passed by the Query indicated by index number. However, I suppose there are

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-16 Thread Hitoshi Harada
2010/7/17 Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: On 7/16/10 6:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 1. Use MaterialNode instead of adding DtScanNode. Since MaterialNode is exsiting one that work with single tuplestore, it might be sane to modify this so that it accepts tuplestore from

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-16 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
On 7/16/10 7:15 PM +0300, Hitoshi Harada wrote: 2010/7/17 Marko Tiikkajamarko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi: I thought about this, but I don't necessarily like the idea of overloading executor nodes. Neither do I have good shape for this solution. Maybe it's not good idea. But my concern is adding

[HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-12 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
Hi, I've been working on writeable CTEs during the last couple of months, but right now it looks like I'm going to miss the first commit fest for 9.1. I was trying to make it work by expanding all wCTEs to their own Queries during the rewrite stage (a very crude patch trying to do that for

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-12 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
On 7/12/10 9:07 PM +0300, I wrote: Consider: WITH t AS (SELECT 1), t2 AS (SELECT * FROM t2) VALUES (true); That should of course have been SELECT * FROM t, not t2. Regards, Marko Tiikkaja -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-12 Thread Tom Lane
Marko Tiikkaja marko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi writes: ... So what I'm now thinking of is making the planner plan that as a single Query, and make the planner expand it into multiple PlannedStmts if necessary. This would break the existing planner hooks, but I don't think that's a huge

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on writeable CTEs

2010-07-12 Thread Marko Tiikkaja
On 7/12/10 9:34 PM +0300, Tom Lane wrote: Marko Tiikkajamarko.tiikk...@cs.helsinki.fi writes: ... So what I'm now thinking of is making the planner plan that as a single Query, and make the planner expand it into multiple PlannedStmts if necessary. This would break the existing planner hooks,

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: getting plpgsql to use the core lexer

2009-07-16 Thread Kevin Grittner
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: One problem that wasn't obvious when I started is that if you are trying to use a reentrant lexer, Bison insists on including its YYSTYPE union in the call signature of the lexer. Of course, YYSTYPE means different things to the core grammar and plpgsql's

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: getting plpgsql to use the core lexer

2009-07-16 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Grittner kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov writes: ... We were able to get to much cleaner code by rewriting the parser to have a dumb phase to get the overall structure into an AST, and then use a tree-walker phase to do all the lookups and type resolution after we had the rough structure,

[HACKERS] Status report: getting plpgsql to use the core lexer

2009-07-15 Thread Tom Lane
I've spent the past several days working on the project I suggested here: http://archives.postgresql.org/message-id/18653.1239741...@sss.pgh.pa.us of getting rid of plpgsql's private lexer and having it use the core lexer instead. I've run out of time for that and need to go focus on commitfest

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: getting plpgsql to use the core lexer

2009-07-15 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: Another pretty serious issue is that the current plpgsql lexer treats various sorts of qualified names as single tokens. I had thought this could be worked around in the interface layer by doing more lookahead. You can do that, and it mostly works, but it's mighty tedious.

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: getting plpgsql to use the core lexer

2009-07-15 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com writes: Tom Lane wrote: ... I spent a fair amount of time trying to work around that by eliminating uses of yytext in plpgsql, and mostly succeeded, but there are still some left. (Some of the remaining regression failures are error messages that

Re: [HACKERS] Status Report on SE-PostgreSQL

2009-01-25 Thread KaiGai Kohei
The patch set of SE-PostgreSQL and related stuff were updated (r1467). [1/5] http://sepgsql.googlecode.com/files/sepostgresql-sepgsql-8.4devel-3-r1467.patch [2/5] http://sepgsql.googlecode.com/files/sepostgresql-utils-8.4devel-3-r1467.patch [3/5]

Re: [HACKERS] Status Report on Hot Standby

2009-01-21 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Robert Treat wrote: On Friday 16 January 2009 19:16:42 Simon Riggs wrote: Bruce asked for 2 more weeks to get patches into shape for commit. Current patch v8e is attached here. Ready for commit? Up to you. My overall opinion is that it's in very good shape. Worth the community including it

Re: [HACKERS] Status Report on Hot Standby

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Treat
On Friday 16 January 2009 19:16:42 Simon Riggs wrote: Bruce asked for 2 more weeks to get patches into shape for commit. Current patch v8e is attached here. Ready for commit? Up to you. My overall opinion is that it's in very good shape. Worth the community including it in this release and

Re: [HACKERS] Status Report on Hot Standby

2009-01-20 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 18:08 -0500, Robert Treat wrote: The patch could benefit further from input from other various hackers, what couldn't? It's time to put this in a shared repository (of some kind) and make further changes to it in a controlled manner. Yep. I've now got this

[HACKERS] Status Report on SE-PostgreSQL

2009-01-16 Thread KaiGai Kohei
I also think it is a good idea to summarize current status of SE-PostgreSQL, as Simon Riggs doing on his works. The current revision of SE-PostgreSQL is 1425, available here: [1/5] http://sepgsql.googlecode.com/files/sepostgresql-sepgsql-8.4devel-3-r1425.patch [2/5]

[HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
I wanted to give everyone an overview of where we are for 8.3. We have addressed almost every major issue for 8.3 but we are getting a steady stream of minor cleanups. These cleanups are vital to keep the quality of Postgres at a high level. It allows us to make major changes in every release

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Neil Conway
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 11:26 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: I expect these cleanups to continue for at least another week or two. Once they slow we will schedule RC1. So are there no plans for an additional beta? Given the recent addition of changes like

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Joshua D. Drake
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:01:11 -0800 Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 11:26 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: I expect these cleanups to continue for at least another week or two. Once they slow we will schedule RC1. So are

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Tom Lane
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So are there no plans for an additional beta? Yes, there are, but not till we do something about http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-11/msg01302.php regards, tom lane ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Gregory Stark
Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i would also like to test another Beta, if we do something about this problem: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-11/msg00960.php That's already done, it would be in the next beta. You could check out a copy from CVS HEAD if

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum
Hello, On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:21:09 -0500 Tom Lane wrote: Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So are there no plans for an additional beta? Yes, there are, but not till we do something about http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-11/msg01302.php i would also like to test

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 releaset

2007-11-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:01:11 -0800 Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 11:26 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: I expect these cleanups to continue for at least another week or two. Once they slow

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Brendan Jurd
On Nov 30, 2007 11:10 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would also like to test another Beta, if we do something about this problem: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-11/msg00960.php Hi Andreas, Tom's already committed the quote_literal(anyelement)

Re: [HACKERS] Status report on 8.3 release

2007-11-29 Thread Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:26:35 +1100 Brendan Jurd wrote: On Nov 30, 2007 11:10 AM, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would also like to test another Beta, if we do something about this problem: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2007-11/msg00960.php Hi

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Jan Wieck
On 7/13/2004 10:23 PM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT version() would display Jan's

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jan Wieck wrote: On 7/13/2004 10:23 PM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: What are you talking about? Are you suggesting Fujitsu's features are getting more attendtion than ARC for some political reason? You think nested transactions and tablespaces are just press release features? All those features are being developed by the

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Jan Wieck
On 7/14/2004 1:13 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: What are you talking about? Are you suggesting Fujitsu's features are getting more attendtion than ARC for some political reason? You think nested transactions and tablespaces are just press release features? All those features are being developed by

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: The big problem that I see with how this feature freeze/beta/release has gone down is that we have *alot* of big items that are/were being worked on (ARC, BGWriter, auto_vacuum, PITR, Nested Xacts), and only so much man power at the reviewer stage ... we *should*

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Simon Riggs
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 23:03, Marc G. Fournier wrote: As a community, I don't think we should be 'supporting' anything older then the last STABLE ... I agree, but that message isn't clearly stated anywhere. The lists are full of people running very old releases - and everybody keeps having

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 21:02, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: The big problem that I see with how this feature freeze/beta/release has gone down is that we have *alot* of big items that are/were being worked on (ARC, BGWriter, auto_vacuum, PITR, Nested Xacts), and only so much

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
We can have a major feature deadline, then a minor feature deadline. I particularly liked the idea of 1 July as the major feature deadline, then 14 July as major-feature-tweak deadline. That funnels things better to cater for the manpower available. That being said, your PITR patch still hasn't

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: We can have a major feature deadline, then a minor feature deadline. I particularly liked the idea of 1 July as the major feature deadline, then 14 July as major-feature-tweak deadline. That funnels things better to cater for the manpower

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: We can have a major feature deadline, then a minor feature deadline. I particularly liked the idea of 1 July as the major feature deadline, then 14 July as major-feature-tweak deadline. That funnels things better to cater for the manpower available. That

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jan Wieck wrote: On 7/10/2004 11:02 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: If you get full control of PostgreSQL, you can dictate what will happen. Until then, I will follow the community consensus, which may or may not match your opinion. Marc isn't the only one who didn't like waiting for more

Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Jan Wieck
On 7/10/2004 11:02 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: If you get full control of PostgreSQL, you can dictate what will happen. Until then, I will follow the community consensus, which may or may not match your opinion. Marc isn't the only one who didn't like waiting for more features going into 7.5 two

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Wieck wrote: I think in the future we have to force all large features, those that probably need more than 6 months of development time, to be properly #ifdef'd. Then it wouldn't be that big of a deal to release more often. Alvaro started out

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Wieck wrote: I think in the future we have to force all large features, those that probably need more than 6 months of development time, to be properly #ifdef'd. Then it wouldn't be that big of a deal to release more often.

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Of course this all ties into the pain of having to dump/reload large databases, and maybe if we had working pg_upgrade the adoption rate would be faster, but I'm not at all sure of that. We're playing in a different league now. Big

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane wrote: Of course this all ties into the pain of having to dump/reload large databases, and maybe if we had working pg_upgrade the adoption rate would be faster, but I'm not at all sure of that. We're playing in a

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Note that I'm all for a long (2 year? or even 'indefinite') development cycle for a major release if we continue on with what has been happening more often lately, where stuff is back patched to the last stable release ... there is alot of stuff that doesn't require a reload of the database

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Note that I'm all for a long (2 year? or even 'indefinite') development cycle for a major release if we continue on with what has been happening more often lately, where stuff is back patched to the last stable release ... there is alot of stuff that doesn't

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 17:12, Marc G. Fournier wrote: ... there is alot of stuff that doesn't require a reload of the database (or initdb) that could very easily be backpatched ... As Jan points out, its the 'small features that are done' that we've been griping about having to wait for, not

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Jonathan Gardner
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 08:52 am, Jan Wieck wrote: I think in the future we have to force all large features, those that probably need more than 6 months of development time, to be properly #ifdef'd. Then it wouldn't be that big of a deal to release more often. Take my opinion with a grain

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Nobody would be required to upgrade to a new minor release either ... nobody is *require* to upgrade to any release, for that matter ... Most people don't have the time to investigate release notes, release policy details, etc. When there are bug fix updates, you use

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Tom Lane
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Lamar Owen wrote: But Tom's assertion is true. We have enough trouble getting patches rolled out; adding parallel branches is just begging for trouble, due to our relatively small resource size. Although, we probably have

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: We have always recommended upgrading to the most recent minor release, at least as a project policy for support. Also, the upgrade is only stop/install/restart so it is quite easy to do, and folks like the fact they

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Tom Lane wrote: We could certainly do something along that line if we had a few people willing to be gatekeepers. We'd have to work harder at making the release generation process open and documented though. Right now there are plenty of steps that only you, Bruce, or

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Nobody would be required to upgrade to a new minor release either ... nobody is *require* to upgrade to any release, for that matter ... Most people don't have the time to investigate release notes, release policy details, etc.

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT version() would display Jan's add-on. I

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Lamar Owen wrote: But Tom's assertion is true. We have enough trouble getting patches rolled out; adding parallel branches is just begging for trouble, due to our relatively small resource size. Although, we probably have enough developers at this point to make it happen.

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: We have always recommended upgrading to the most recent minor release, at least as a project policy for support. Also, the upgrade is only stop/install/restart so it is quite easy to do, and folks like the fact they don't have to test for new

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Mike Benoit
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 13:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jan Wieck wrote: I think in the future we have to force all large features, those that probably need more than 6 months of development time, to be properly #ifdef'd. Then it wouldn't be that big

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: The nice thing about doing something lke that is those small features would get a degree of testing happening in a live environment ... Of course that last sentence is the downside too --- people don't want to have to

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: The nice thing about doing something lke that is those small features would get a degree of testing happening in a live environment ... Of course that last sentence is the downside too --- people don't want to have to retest their setups after a minor

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Rod Taylor
However, looking at how the Linux community handles it, I think we can borrow a lot of concepts from them. I was thinking quite the opposite. The Linux community doesn't exactly have a great track-record for their stable releases. The thoughts behind the process might be good, but do we have

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Rod Taylor
On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 20:49, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Tom Lane wrote: We could certainly do something along that line if we had a few people willing to be gatekeepers. We'd have to work harder at making the release generation process open and documented though.

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
God, we still have clients using 7.2 servers, cause they've had no reason yet to upgrade to the latest ... it works, why upgrade? is generally the opinion ... Because there's shocking failure-to-restart bugs in 7.2...and if you upgrade to 7.4 you're forced to get new features as well. Chris

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT version() would display Jan's add-on. I think you guys just need to learn to become

Re: Release planning (was: Re: [HACKERS] Status report)

2004-07-13 Thread Justin Clift
Marc G. Fournier wrote: snip As Jan points out, its the 'small features that are done' that we've been griping about having to wait for, not the big ones which we know aren't done ... snip Hmmm... so we do things slightly differently than previously... This upcoming version could be PG version

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-12 Thread Andreas Pflug
Justin Clift wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: If you get full control of PostgreSQL, you can dictate what will happen. Until then, I will follow the community consensus, which may or may not match your opinion. Um, let's take the time to get the features in, otherwise we'll be waiting another year

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-11 Thread Justin Clift
Bruce Momjian wrote: If you get full control of PostgreSQL, you can dictate what will happen. Until then, I will follow the community consensus, which may or may not match your opinion. Um, let's take the time to get the features in, otherwise we'll be waiting another year (roughly) to get PITR

[HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
I am still going through my mailbox, trying to address all the open patches so we can move toward beta. Of course, many of the patches I kept need some adjustment to get applied (e.g. configuration file location) so it is slow going. However, we still have PITR unapplied, autovacuum unapplied,

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I am still going through my mailbox, trying to address all the open patches so we can move toward beta. Of course, many of the patches I kept need some adjustment to get applied (e.g. configuration file location) so it is slow going. However, we still have PITR unapplied, autovacuum unapplied,

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am still going through my mailbox, trying to address all the open patches so we can move toward beta. Of course, many of the patches I kept need some adjustment to get applied (e.g. configuration file location) so it is slow going. However, we still

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
My point is that it isn't the patch submitters we are waiting on anymore. It is the backlog of patches that need review/adjustment. --- Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am still

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: My point is that it isn't the patch submitters we are waiting on anymore. It is the backlog of patches that need review/adjustment. Of course, many of the patches I kept need some adjustment to get applied ... ... to me, that indicates that even after

Re: [HACKERS] Status report

2004-07-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
If you get full control of PostgreSQL, you can dictate what will happen. Until then, I will follow the community consensus, which may or may not match your opinion. --- Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Bruce

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tatsuo Ishii writes: UTF-8 seems to be the most popular, but even XML standard requires all compliant implementations to deal with at least both UTF-8 and UTF-16. I don't think PostgreSQL is going to natively support UTF-16. At FOSDEM it was claimed that Windows natively uses UCS-2, and

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: code is concerned: the regex library actually offers three regex flavors, advanced, extended, and basic, where extended matches what we had before (extended and basic correspond to different levels of the POSIX 1003.2 standard). We just need a way to expose that knob to the

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tom Lane writes: code is concerned: the regex library actually offers three regex flavors, advanced, extended, and basic, where extended matches what we had before (extended and basic correspond to different levels of the POSIX 1003.2 standard). We

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-07 Thread Hannu Krosing
Tatsuo Ishii kirjutas R, 07.02.2003 kell 04:03: UTF-8 seems to be the most popular, but even XML standard requires all compliant implementations to deal with at least both UTF-8 and UTF-16. I don't think PostgreSQL is going to natively support UTF-16. By natively, do you mean as backend

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
I have just committed the latest version of Henry Spencer's regex package (lifted from Tcl 8.4.1) into CVS HEAD. This code is natively able to handle wide characters efficiently, and so it avoids the multibyte performance problems recently exhibited by Wade Klaver. I have not done extensive

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Tim Allen
On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:49, Hannu Krosing wrote: Tatsuo Ishii kirjutas N, 06.02.2003 kell 17:05: Perhaps we should not call the encoding UNICODE but UTF8 (which it really is). UNICODE is a character set which has half a dozen official encodings and calling one of them UNICODE does not make

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 13:25, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: I have just committed the latest version of Henry Spencer's regex package (lifted from Tcl 8.4.1) into CVS HEAD. This code is natively able to handle wide characters efficiently, and so it avoids the multibyte performance problems recently

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Perhaps we should not call the encoding UNICODE but UTF8 (which it really is). UNICODE is a character set which has half a dozen official encodings and calling one of them UNICODE does not make things very clear. Right. Also we perhaps should call LATIN1 or ISO-8859-1 more precisely way since

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Hannu Krosing
Tatsuo Ishii kirjutas N, 06.02.2003 kell 17:05: Perhaps we should not call the encoding UNICODE but UTF8 (which it really is). UNICODE is a character set which has half a dozen official encodings and calling one of them UNICODE does not make things very clear. Right. Also we perhaps

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-06 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Right. Also we perhaps should call LATIN1 or ISO-8859-1 more precisely way since ISO-8859-1 can be encoded in either 7 bit or 8 bit(we use this). I don't know what it is called though. I don't think that calling 8-bit ISO-8859-1 ISO-8859-1 can confuse anybody, but UCS-2 (ISO-10646-1),

[HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-05 Thread Tom Lane
I have just committed the latest version of Henry Spencer's regex package (lifted from Tcl 8.4.1) into CVS HEAD. This code is natively able to handle wide characters efficiently, and so it avoids the multibyte performance problems recently exhibited by Wade Klaver. I have not done extensive

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-05 Thread Jon Jensen
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Tom Lane wrote: 1. There are a couple of minor incompatibilities between the advanced regex syntax implemented by this package and the syntax handled by our old code; in particular, backslash is now a special character within bracket expressions. It seems to me that we'd

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-05 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
set regex_flavor = advanced set regex_flavor = extended set regex_flavor = basic [snip] Any suggestions about the name of the parameter? Actually I think 'regex_flavor' sounds fine. Not more Americanisms in our config files!! :P Chris ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Status report: regex replacement

2003-02-05 Thread Hannu Krosing
Christopher Kings-Lynne kirjutas N, 06.02.2003 kell 03:56: set regex_flavor = advanced set regex_flavor = extended set regex_flavor = basic [snip] Any suggestions about the name of the parameter? Actually I think 'regex_flavor' sounds fine. Not more Americanisms in our

[HACKERS] status report

2002-04-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
With my pg_hba.conf changes done, I am now focusing in the next few days on clearing out my email/patch application backlog. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830