Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:10:01AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. Thanks, but shouldn't varchar/text also be mentioned in the release notes, rather

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 02:47:14PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:10:01AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. Thanks, but

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have applied the attached patch to document this in the data type docs. Thanks, but shouldn't varchar/text also be mentioned in the release notes, rather than character fields? -- Peter Geoghegan -- Sent via

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I am sorry it so long for me to address this. Peter brought it up in June, but I just wasn't around to address it cleanly before now. I am glad he reminded me. Well, you got around to it eventually. Thanks. -- Peter

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 04:07:36PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that explains why users

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that explains why users should prefer varchar(n)/text to character(n); the lack of abbreviated

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Lane
Arthur Silva arthur...@gmail.com writes: Are we landing pg_tgrm 1.2 in pg 9.5? No, we aren't. And please don't quote 70 lines of unrelated stuff before making your point. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-20 Thread Arthur Silva
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 01:24:33AM +1200, David Rowley wrote: On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: * 2014-12-08

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:35:50PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:42:38PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for end users, so I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread David Rowley
On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: * 2014-12-08 [519b075] Simon ..: Use GetSystemTimeAsFileTime directly in win32 2014-12-08 [8001fe6] Simon ..: Windows: use GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime if ..

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: With regard to the point about the number of buffer mappings: This has forced peoples sites down. People have found this out themselves and patched postgres. That's an entirely different league. I was not aware of the magnitude of

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: On 2015-08-07 14:43:11 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Well, we could just throw a Postgres 9.5 is faster release note item in there and call it a day. ;-) Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a new

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 02:49:21PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: What I _am_ saying is that you should use the same criteria I am using, and just disagree on the place for the line, rather than use a different criteria, which will lead to perpetual complaints. We can change the

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-08 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 01:24:33AM +1200, David Rowley wrote: On 7 August 2015 at 14:24, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: * 2014-12-08 [519b075] Simon ..: Use GetSystemTimeAsFileTime directly in win32    

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Gavin Flower
On 08/08/15 06:43, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:53:30AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: [...] Well, we could just throw a Postgres 9.5 is faster release note item in there and call it a day. ;-) Nah! Just say it is Much Shinier, I'll buy it. Unfortunately, we have to have much

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping partition.. should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of downstream vendors and users, so it's probably worth calling out? Uh, I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-08-07 11:53:30 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping partition.. should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of downstream vendors

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:53:30AM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: * 2014-10-02 [3acc10c9] Robert..: Increase the number of buffer mapping partition.. should we mention this? This has been patched by a number of

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-08-07 14:43:11 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Well, we could just throw a Postgres 9.5 is faster release note item in there and call it a day. ;-) Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a new version of postgres is performance. And it's not like 'faster!!!' is

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-07 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote: Based on my experience one of the prime reason people move to a new version of postgres is performance. And it's not like 'faster!!!' is really helpful for them to evaluate the benefits appropriately. A scalability

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: I think 647248e3708, 4fe384bd85, 4f85fde8, 59f71a0d0 should also be I couldn't look up 647248e3708, I got unknown revision or path not in the working tree. a 6 is missing. 6647248e3708 -- Álvaro Herrera

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and UPSERT. Can you look at this please, Bruce? -- Peter Geoghegan -- Sent via

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:44:40PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: I think 647248e3708, 4fe384bd85, 4f85fde8, 59f71a0d0 should also be I couldn't look up 647248e3708, I got unknown revision or path not in

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: Below performance improvement in the General Performance category is missing: Reduce btree scan overhead for and strategies For , =, and = strategies, mark the first scan key as already matched if scanning

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 01:48:26PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have committed the first draft

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:21:19PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: So, I did a pass through master's state: listitem para

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:44:04PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: I'm looking through all the commits, checking which I think should possibly be

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:34:27AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: On 2015-06-23 21:08:36 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner kgri...@ymail.com wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote: listitem para Improve concurrent locking

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 09:14:01PM +, Rajeev rastogi wrote: On 11 June 2015 09:45, Bruce Momjian Wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html and it will eventually appear

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 06:42:38PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for end users, so I put this text in the Source Code changes section: I carefully

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I am using the same criteria I have always used. If you would like it changed, we need to discuss it at a macro level, not for individual cases where we feel someone didn't get enough _credit_. I don't know how you can say

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:05:59PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor releases,

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 03:32:43PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: Below performance improvement in the General Performance category is missing: Reduce btree scan overhead for and strategies For , =, and =

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: On 2015-06-29 17:58:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Yeah we are. The only places you'll find where we aren't formatting to 77 or 78 columns or so are where it would require breaking SGML tags in weird places. Which isn't exactly

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: Anyway, how about: format:%cd [%h] %(8,trunc)%cN: %(49,trunc)%s (which you can configure as pretty.pgmajor or so in .gitconfig btw.) Should we add this to src/tools/git_changelog? It

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 03:39:19PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I am ready to make suggested adjustments I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I though tabout this, and it is really an issue for FDW authors, not for end users, so I put this text in the Source Code changes section: I carefully considered where to put it, and chose the compatibility section based on

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 09:00:44PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: I've gone through the release notes and added comments referencing commits as discussed earlier. Additionally I've improved and added a bunch of items. Further stuff that came up while looking: * 2014-09-25 [b0d81ad] Heikki..:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:21:29PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes: On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote: Anyway, how about: format:%cd [%h] %(8,trunc)%cN: %(49,trunc)%s (which you can configure as pretty.pgmajor or so in .gitconfig

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-08-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:05:54PM +0100, Dean Rasheed wrote: On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I think it's

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-07-09 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and UPSERT. Are you going to review this, Bruce? It is an open item for 9.5. I would

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-30 Thread Andres Freund
I've gone through the release notes and added comments referencing commits as discussed earlier. Additionally I've improved and added a bunch of items. Further stuff that came up while looking: * 2014-09-25 [b0d81ad] Heikki..: Add -D option to specify data directory to pg_c.. new options,

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor releases, to news items? +1. Helps confirm which items are meant to

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: Haven't yet thought much about the format, maybe in the style of git log --pretty='format:[%h] %aN [%ci]: %s' upstream/master I'd personally like to see the hash and the time, the rest isn't particularly important to me. [ ... plays with that ... ]

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:30:57 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: Haven't yet thought much about the format, maybe in the style of git log --pretty='format:[%h] %aN [%ci]: %s' upstream/master I'd personally like to see the hash and the time, the rest isn't

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. I'm working on integrating the suggestions I made last week to the release notes. Would anybody mind if I start to add commit ids in comments, similar to what Tom has done for minor

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: How about: git log --pretty='format:%cd [%h] %cN: %s' --date=short upstream/master Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote for restricting it to fit in an 80-column window though. regards, tom

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:58:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Yeah we are. The only places you'll find where we aren't formatting to 77 or 78 columns or so are where it would require breaking SGML tags in weird places. Which isn't exactly infrequent... Anyway, how about: format:%cd [%h] %(8,trunc)%cN:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:44:06 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: How about: git log --pretty='format:%cd [%h] %cN: %s' --date=short upstream/master Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote for restricting it to fit in an 80-column

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Tom Lane
Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de writes: On 2015-06-29 17:44:06 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Ah yes, didn't see that option. That's definitely better. I'd still vote for restricting it to fit in an 80-column window though. I don't see the benefit of truncating away the end of the commit message

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-29 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-29 17:05:59 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: +1. Helps confirm which items are meant to correspond to which commits. That's what made me think of it. In case you didn't realize it already, the stuff I put into the minor release notes is from src/tools/git_changelog. Dunno whether we need

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: Really? The pre-check thing wasn't too complex for Magnus to have a couple of bullet points on it *specifically* in his high level NYC talk on

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote langote_amit...@lab.ntt.co.jp wrote: On 2015-06-11 PM 01:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html and it will

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: OK, but how about this wording instead? That seems fine. BTW, shouldn't Andrew also be credited here, since he did the work on datum sorts? Andrew's work was entirely confined to making datum sorts work with

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Can you put your suggestions here in the form of a patch to the release notes? The attached patch generalizes from the 9.2 release note wording. I use the word inlined here too, even though commit 5ea86e6e6 did not do too

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com wrote: Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote langote_amit...@lab.ntt.co.jp wrote: Is it intentional that the following items are separate? [...] Or could they made into one item? I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Amit Langote langote_amit...@lab.ntt.co.jp wrote: Is it intentional that the following items are separate? [...] Or could they made into one item? I think one item would be fine. I suggested the same a couple of weeks ago. --

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: Can you put your suggestions here in the form of a patch to the release notes? The attached patch generalizes from the 9.2 release note wording. I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote: OK, but how about this wording instead? That seems fine. BTW, shouldn't Andrew also be credited here, since he did the work on datum sorts?

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I am ready to make suggested adjustments Also, I attach a new description of the UPSERT feature. For me, UPSERT was always about guarantees that make

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-26 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I am ready to make suggested adjustments I attach a compatibility note that is clearly needed; adding this is an open item of mine for 9.5. This concerns foreign data wrappers and UPSERT. -- Peter Geoghegan diff --git

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-06-23 21:08:36 -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner kgri...@ymail.com wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote: listitem para Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres Freund, Kevin Grittner)

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: Really? The pre-check thing wasn't too complex for Magnus to have a couple of bullet points on it *specifically* in his high level NYC talk on Postgres 9.5 features [1]. I don't think it's hard to understand at all.

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-24 Thread Amit Langote
Hi, On 2015-06-11 PM 01:15, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html and it will eventually appear here:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-23 Thread Kevin Grittner
Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote: listitem para Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres Freund, Kevin Grittner) /para /listitem If this is ab5194e6f, I don't think it makes sense to mention buffer scan - it's just any

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-23 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Kevin Grittner kgri...@ymail.com wrote: Andres Freund and...@anarazel.de wrote: listitem para Improve concurrent locking and buffer scan performance (Andres Freund, Kevin Grittner) /para /listitem If this is ab5194e6f, I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-22 Thread Rajeev rastogi
On 11 June 2015 09:45, Bruce Momjian Wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html and it will eventually appear here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release.html

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-19 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: So, I did a pass through master's state: listitem para Add link linkend=BRINBlock Range Indexes/ (acronymBRIN/)

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-19 Thread Andres Freund
Hi, On 2015-06-11 00:15:21 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: I'm looking through all the commits, checking which I think should possibly be mentioned additionally: - 9f03ca91 - Speed up CREATE INDEX by avoiding

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-16 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: For pretty much the same reason, I'm not in favor of small caps either. Even assuming we can do that consistently (which I bet we can't; we do not have all that much control over how web browsers render HTML),

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-16 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes: OK, new idea. What about, instead of having the last name be all-caps, we have the last name start with an uppercase letter, then use smallcaps for the rest of the last name:

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Dean Rasheed
On 11 June 2015 at 05:15, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I think it's worth mentioning dcbf5948e12aa60b4d6ab65b6445897dfc971e01, probably

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Stephen Frost
* Bruce Momjian (br...@momjian.us) wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Note that I guess MauMau is a nickname. I think we are fine consistenly putting Japanese last names first _if_ we always capitalize the last name, e.g. FUJITA Etsuro --- is that a

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:30:30PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: Note that I guess MauMau is a nickname. I think we are fine consistenly putting Japanese last names first _if_ we always capitalize the last name, e.g. FUJITA Etsuro --- is that a good idea? Does everyone like that? Does any

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Petr Jelinek
On 2015-06-14 03:02, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Petr Jelinek wrote: Hi, + listitem + para +Add typeJSONB/ functions functionjsonb_set()/ and +functionjsonb_pretty/ (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) +

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes: OK, new idea. What about, instead of having the last name be all-caps, we have the last name start with an uppercase letter, then use smallcaps for the rest of the last name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_caps That way, the last name will

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 01:57:08PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Also, it looks like we could spell your last name with an accent, assuming the i-acute character in Latin1 is fine. Ah, you are

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Also, it looks like we could spell your last name with an accent, assuming the i-acute character in Latin1 is fine. Ah, you are correct. I found a few commits that did have that accent. All _seven_ of

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-14 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: I think we should really address this. Attached patch adds a new release note item for it. It also adds to the documentation that explains why users should prefer varchar(n)/text to character(n); the lack of abbreviated key

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:47:59AM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Petr Jelinek wrote: Hi, + listitem + para +Add typeJSONB/ functions functionjsonb_set()/ and +functionjsonb_pretty/ (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) + /para + /listitem I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:26PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I noticed something while reading this and would like the

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Jan de Visser
On June 13, 2015 09:30:12 PM Bruce Momjian wrote: Are there other countries where this would be appropriate? I'm pretty sure Hungarian uses the family name-given name ordering, and it's also sometimes used in French, and therefore you often see French family names spelled in all caps. --

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html One more thing on names. You have Alexander Shulgin as Alex Shulgin in the second place his name appears. Also, since he moved

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:20:48PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html One more thing on names. You

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Kouhei Kaigai
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:26PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I noticed something while reading this and would like

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Michael Paquier
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:44:25AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: The real question here is, if contributors are required to show their official names (along with their alias or nickname if any). If yes, it is apparent that all contributor

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I noticed something while reading this and would like the input of our Japanese contributors. Normally, western names are

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html I noticed something while reading this and would like the input of our Japanese contributors. Normally, western names are

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:44:25AM +0900, Tatsuo Ishii wrote: The real question here is, if contributors are required to show their official names (along with their alias or nickname if any). If yes, it is apparent that all contributor names should be shown in a unified formal style. If

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes. You can view the output here: http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html and it will eventually appear here: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release.html I am ready to

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Petr Jelinek wrote: Hi, + listitem + para +Add typeJSONB/ functions functionjsonb_set()/ and +functionjsonb_pretty/ (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) + /para + /listitem I believe I should be 3rd author for this one as I rewrote large parts of this

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-13 Thread Peter Geoghegan
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: I'm not sure if it's worth mentioning the cheap equality for text commit (e246b3d6eac09). I guess that it probably is, because it will help with things like index scans, too. Arguably that isn't a sorting thing (it's

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Petr Jelinek
Hi, + listitem + para +Add typeJSONB/ functions functionjsonb_set()/ and +functionjsonb_pretty/ (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) + /para + /listitem I believe I should be 3rd author for this one as I rewrote large parts of this functionality as part of the

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:31:01PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: Improve hash creation and lookup performance (Tomas Vondra, Teodor Sigaev, Tom Lane, Robert Haas) I suggest haveing

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: On 06/10/2015 09:50 PM, Amit Kapila wrote: Also shall we mention about below in Migrations to 9.5 section pg_basebackup will not not work

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:27:23PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 05:16:07PM +1200, David Rowley wrote: Would you also be able to mention something about�f15821e and�d222585 ? I am going to defer to Tom on that. I have added

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 05:17:54PM -0400, Robert Haas wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote: Secondly, Robert didn't credit himself as an author in his commit message for the abbreviated keys infrastructure + text opclass support *at all*. However, I

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 02:47:22PM +0200, Petr Jelinek wrote: Hi, + listitem + para +Add typeJSONB/ functions functionjsonb_set()/ and +functionjsonb_pretty/ (Dmitry Dolgov, Andrew Dunstan) + /para + /listitem I believe I should be 3rd author for

Re: [HACKERS] 9.5 release notes

2015-06-12 Thread Amit Kapila
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:02:35PM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Josh Berkus j...@agliodbs.com wrote: On 06/10/2015 09:50 PM, Amit Kapila wrote: Also shall we mention about

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