Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-18 Thread Christopher Browne
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Gaetano Mendola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-15 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Christopher Browne wrote: A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Gaetano Mendola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-15 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Gaetano Mendola wrote: I'm sorry to see Postgresql releases driven by advertisment instead by good sense ( as it was till today ). The releases are not being driving by advertisement ... note that the decisions for including the features you list above was made before the

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
To fill you in a little, I am the PostgreSQL CORE team member Jan Wieck, who burned Afilias payroll hours to implement the ARC buffer replacement strategy. The feature has been completed and fully contributed under the BSD license way ahead of any possible release schedule. I have had several

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Jan Wieck
On 7/14/2004 5:00 AM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Yes, but it has been committed, it will be released - the only thing is that people will have to wait a few more months for it. My point was Just a few more months? That is exactly what I was asking for, put some of the stuff into 7.6 so it

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Andreas Pflug
Jan Wieck wrote: On 7/14/2004 5:00 AM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Yes, but it has been committed, it will be released - the only thing is that people will have to wait a few more months for it. My point was Just a few more months? That is exactly what I was asking for, put some of the

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Jan Wieck wrote: On 7/14/2004 5:00 AM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Yes, but it has been committed, it will be released - the only thing is that people will have to wait a few more months for it. My point was Just a few more months? That is exactly what I was asking for, put some

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning (was: Re: Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Josh Berkus
Jan, What touches me here is the fact that the PostgreSQL Open Source Project under the BSD license seems starting to care a lot more about some press releases and silly news splashes, than to care about real features contributed under the terms and conditions of the BSD license by serious

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: The community decides when to stop development. Neither Afilias nor any other company has that control. If you want the development cycle cut shorter, make your case to the community --- if you win, great, if not, don't gripe about it. Core decides

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-14 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote: The community decides when to stop development. Neither Afilias nor any other company has that control. If you want the development cycle cut shorter, make your case to the community --- if you win, great, if not,

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning (was: Re: Status report)

2004-07-14 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Bruce Momjian wrote: I was thinking of something much simpler where Jan would create an ARC patch against 7.4.X and have it either in /contrib for 7.4.X or on our ftp servers, or on a web site. I could create a mechanism so SELECT version() would display Jan's add-on. :-( I was asking to add the

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-13 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
The thoughts behind the process might be good, but do we have examples where it has worked out well? The 2.4 series seems to have been particularly bad for new major issues in their stable releases. PHP's the same. Absolutely dreadful. They put all sorts of new features mixed in with security

Re: [HACKERS] Release planning

2004-07-13 Thread Jonathan M. Gardner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 13 July 2004 7:33 pm, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: PHP's the same. Absolutely dreadful. They put all sorts of new features mixed in with security and bug fixes in their minor releases. The NUMBER OF TIMES I've upgraded PHP to fix a