Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-27 Thread Richard Troy
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote: ...snip... > > > Data partitioning is often done within a single database on a single > > server and therefore, as a concept, has nothing whatsoever to do with > > different servers. Similarly, the second paragraph of this section is > > Uh, why would

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:06:13PM -0400, Robert Treat wrote: > > Unfortunately the techdocs system won't support a url like the one above, > rather you'll end up with something more like the following > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs.54 which is the "GUI Tools Guide" > (which is link

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Robert Treat
On Thursday 26 October 2006 10:45, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:46:33PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > So, like www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs/replication? That would > > > work. > > > > Yes. > > I like that idea, but I think that the URL needs t

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Richard Troy
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Bruce, > > > It isn't designed for that. It is designed for people to understand > > what they want, and then they can look around for solutions. I think > > most agree we don't want a list of solutions in the documentation, > > though I have a few as

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Alexey Klyukin
Hi, A typo: ("a write to any server has to be _propogated_") s/propogated/propagated Bruce Momjian wrote: Here is a new replication documentation section I want to add for 8.2: ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication Comments welcomed. -- Regards, Alexey Klyukin

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Bruce Momjian
With no new additions submitted today, I have moved my text into our SGML documentation: http://momjian.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/failover.html Please let me know what additional changes are needed. --- bruce wro

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-26 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 05:46:33PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > So, like www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs/replication? That would work. > > Yes. I like that idea, but I think that the URL needs to be decided upon, needs to be stable, and needs to be put into the docs. (

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > > > Most people didn't want a list because there is no way to keep it > > current in the docs, and a secondary web site was suggested for the > > list. > > So, like www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs/replication? That would work. Yes. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL P

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, > Most people didn't want a list because there is no way to keep it > current in the docs, and a secondary web site was suggested for the > list. So, like www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs/replication? That would work. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco -

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > > > It isn't designed for that. It is designed for people to understand > > what they want, and then they can look around for solutions. I think > > most agree we don't want a list of solutions in the documentation, > > though I have a few as examples. > > Do the

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, > It isn't designed for that. It is designed for people to understand > what they want, and then they can look around for solutions. I think > most agree we don't want a list of solutions in the documentation, > though I have a few as examples. Do they? I've seen no discussion of the

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > > > > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication > > I'm still not seeing anything in this patch that tells users where they can > get replication solutions for PostgreSQL, either OSS or commercial. It isn't designed for that. It is designed f

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Richard Troy wrote: > > > Here is a new replication documentation section I want to add for 8.2: > > > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication > > > > ...Read the document, as promissed... > > First paragraph, "(fail over)" is inconsistent with title, "failover", as > are oth

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, > > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication I'm still not seeing anything in this patch that tells users where they can get replication solutions for PostgreSQL, either OSS or commercial. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco --

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Alexey Klyukin wrote: > Hi, > > A typo: > ("a write to any server has to be _propogated_") > s/propogated/propagated Thanks, fixed. --- > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Here is a new replication documentation section I want t

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Richard Troy
> Here is a new replication documentation section I want to add for 8.2: > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication > ...Read the document, as promissed... First paragraph, "(fail over)" is inconsistent with title, "failover", as are other spots throughout the document. The wh

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Richard Troy
Hi Hannu, everyone, I apologize for not having read the document in question - will do shortly. My comments are brought about by the dialogue I read on list this morning... > > Here is a new replication documentation section I want to add for 8.2: > > > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypa

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Bruce Momjian
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:16 PM > > > > To: Hannu Krosing > > > > Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation; PostgreSQL-development > > > > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition > > > > > > > > > > > > O

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-25 Thread Hannu Krosing
half Of Bruce Momjian > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:16 PM > > > To: Hannu Krosing > > > Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation; PostgreSQL-development > > > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition > > > > > > > >

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > >> I have updated the text. Please let me know what else I should change. >> I am unsure if I should be mentioning commercial PostgreSQL products in >> our documentation. > > I think you should mention the postgresql-only ones, but just briefly with a > link. Bizg

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, > I have updated the text.  Please let me know what else I should change. > I am unsure if I should be mentioning commercial PostgreSQL products in > our documentation. I think you should mention the postgresql-only ones, but just briefly with a link. Bizgres MPP, ExtenDB, uni/cluster, a

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Momjian > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:16 PM > > To: Hannu Krosing > > Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation; PostgreSQL-development > > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition > > > > > > OK, I ha

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
Markus Schiltknecht wrote: > Looking at that, I'm a) missing PgCluster and b) arguing that we have to > admit that we simply can not 'list .. replication solutions ... and how > to get them' because all of the solutions mentioned need quite some > knowledge and require a more or less complex ins

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have updated the text. Please let me know what else I should change. I am unsure if I should be mentioning commercial PostgreSQL products in our documentation. --- Hannu Krosing wrote: > ?hel kenal p?eval, T, 2006-10-24

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Luke Lonergan
Bruce, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Momjian > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:16 PM > To: Hannu Krosing > Cc: PostgreSQL-documentation; PostgreSQL-development > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Replication d

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, I have updated the URL. Please let me know how you like it. --- Hannu Krosing wrote: > ?hel kenal p?eval, T, 2006-10-24 kell 00:20, kirjutas Bruce Momjian: > > Here is a new replication documentation section I want to a

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 11:39:34PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Query Broadcast Replication > --- > > This involves sending write queries to multiple servers. Read-only > queries can be sent to a single server because there is no need for all > servers to process it. Th

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hello Josh, Josh Berkus wrote: Hmmm ... while the primer on different types of replication is fine, I think what users were really looking for is a listing of the different replication solutions which are available for PostgreSQL and how to get them. Well, let's see what we have: * Shared D

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, > Here is my first draft of a new replication section for our > documentation. I am looking for any comments. Hmmm ... while the primer on different types of replication is fine, I think what users were really looking for is a listing of the different replication solutions which are ava

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hannu Krosing wrote: I think the "official" term for this kind of "replication" is Shared-Nothing Clustering. Well, that's just another distinction for clusters. Most of the time it's between Shared-Disk vs. Shared-Nothing. You could also see the very Big Irons as a Shared-Everything Cluster.

Re: [HACKERS] Replication documentation addition

2006-10-24 Thread Hannu Krosing
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 2006-10-24 kell 00:20, kirjutas Bruce Momjian: > Here is a new replication documentation section I want to add for 8.2: > > ftp://momjian.us/pub/postgresql/mypatches/replication This is how data partitioning is currently described there > Data Partitioning > -