Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-15 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 10:37:58AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: This also brings up the thought that if we do want to use pgfoundry.org, we'd better register pgfoundry.net and pgfoundry.com before someone else does. And .info? And .biz? And whatever other unrestricted nonsense things there are

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread David Garamond
Michael Glaesemann wrote: Just to speak up (as an avid lurker), I agree with Jeroen that this distinction is quite subtle and may cause confusion. Some may even expect the two to resolve to the same site, as a lot of popular sites own .com/.net/.org, all resolving to the same site. Speaking of

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Magnus Hagander
However, some of the porting team felt that it would be confusing for people who typed in www.postgresql.net to be presented with the GForge interface, and suggested that we use the domain after what we'll be calling the new Tool, namely pgFoundry, thus putting stuff at

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Andreas Pflug
Josh Berkus wrote: Folks, As we discussed a couple weeks ago, Marc, Andrew, Tim Perdue, Chris Ryan and I are testing implementing GForge in place of GBorg for associated projects for PostgreSQL. One thing which was suggested initially was that this new project hosting site be at

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2004 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org Isn't gforge a pgsql related project itself? So I'd suggest

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:42:47PM -, Dave Page wrote: We need some distinction between the core project sites and other project sites - istm that a different domain is the only way to do that. Okay, then how about postgres-extra.net, or forpostgres.net? Saying Postgres instead of

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Andreas Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 March 2004 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org Isn't gforge a pgsql related project itself

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Tom Lane
Jeroen T. Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 02:42:47PM -, Dave Page wrote: We need some distinction between the core project sites and other project sites - istm that a different domain is the only way to do that. Okay, then how about postgres-extra.net, or

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 10:37:58AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Well, if you want to think along those lines, I believe that we (PGDG) currently hold these domain names: [...] postgres.org This is the one I was silently rooting for, but figured was too good to be true. You could make a

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Robert Treat
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org Isn't gforge a pgsql related project itself? So I'd suggest: www.postgresql.org http://www.postgresql.org- main PostgreSQL site gforge.postgresql.org - gforge interface site

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Josh Berkus
Robert, maybe pgsqlfoundry is a better compromise? No, too long.People'd end up calling it pgFoundry anyway. Besides, Gavin Roy already designed us a nice pgFoundry logo. ;-) -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Joe Conway
Tom Lane wrote: Well, if you want to think along those lines, I believe that we (PGDG) currently hold these domain names: postgresql.org postgresql.com postgresql.net postgres.org postgres.com It looks like some domain squatter has his tentacles on

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Greg Stark
David Garamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, we're targetting the developers right? Please do not consider ourselves as being too stupid to differentiate between postgresql.org and postgresql.net... I can never remember whether the current site is postgresql.{com,org,net} even now. Making

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Josh Berkus
Joe, Looks like he hasn't been squatting all that long: Domain Name: POSTGRES.NET Created on..: Wed, Aug 07, 2002 Expires on..: Sat, Aug 07, 2004 Record last updated on..: Fri, Oct 31, 2003 Also note the expiration date. Maybe we can

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Joe Conway
Josh Berkus wrote: Looks like he hasn't been squatting all that long: Domain Name: POSTGRES.NET Created on..: Wed, Aug 07, 2002 Expires on..: Sat, Aug 07, 2004 Record last updated on..: Fri, Oct 31, 2003 Also note the expiration date. Maybe we can

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-12 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Greg Stark wrote: I would say follow the same model as modules.apache.org, pear.php.net, etc. note that having projects.postgresql.org is cool ... its just the projects subpages that I'm objecting too ... the easiest is to have http://projects.postgresql.org point to the

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 03:14:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: So far, only 4 people, total, have expressed opinons on the matter. I'm throwing this on Hackers so that members of projects we will be hosting can indicate whether they: A) Favor www.postgresql.net B) Favor www.pgfoundry.org

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Lane
Jeroen T. Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 03:14:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: A) Favor www.postgresql.net B) Favor www.pgfoundry.org C) Don't care as long as the porting is relatively painless. I'm not crazy about the name pgfoundry, but otherwise I think it's

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Jeroen T. Vermeulen
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:01:47PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Actually, proposal (A) does provide such a separation: notice that the projects would go under *.postgresql.net, with the core database remaining at *.postgresql.org. I am not sure if that will provoke confusion or not, but I think I

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Lane
Jeroen T. Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's another idea: couldn't we have a subdomain for the projects, as in project.forge.postgresql.org? Or would that be too long? That would be okay with me ... regards, tom lane ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Josh Berkus
Jeroen, Here's another idea: couldn't we have a subdomain for the projects, as in project.forge.postgresql.org? Or would that be too long? Hmmm ... wouldn't that be rather awkward with the projects with longer names? http://orapgsqlviews.foundry.postgresql.org That's 39 characters, not

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Tom Lane wrote: Jeroen T. Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 03:14:10PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: A) Favor www.postgresql.net B) Favor www.pgfoundry.org C) Don't care as long as the porting is relatively painless. I'm not crazy about the name

Re: [HACKERS] The Name Game: postgresql.net vs. pgfoundry.org

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Mar 12, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:01:47PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Actually, proposal (A) does provide such a separation: notice that the projects would go under *.postgresql.net, with the core database remaining at *.postgresql.org. I am not sure