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From: "Michael Fuhr"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 22/08/05 05:41:50
To: "Tom Lane"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org"
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Sleep functions
> To others who've written their own sleep() > function: what are you
> using it for?
LOL - I hon
On E, 2005-08-22 at 00:36 +0300, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> On K, 2005-08-17 at 14:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > That
> > makes the patch far more invasive, and I'm not confident I can work
> > out all the implications. (In particular, the consequences for
> > TransactionIdIsInProgress look bad. I do
On E, 2005-08-22 at 00:36 +0300, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> On K, 2005-08-17 at 14:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Please check the actual patch and advise if anything is still missing.
> >
> > While testing this I realized that it does not in fact work as
On E, 2005-08-22 at 01:14 +0300, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> > I fixed this in a more local way by adding an extra "xmin" to proc for
> > transactions where inVacuum is false (proc->nonInVacuumXmin) which is
> > calculated together with proc->xmin.
>
> Somehow this still did not fix the issue of getti
--On lördag, augusti 20, 2005 12.17.47 -0400 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[ moving to -hackers for wider discussion ]
"Magnus Hagander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2005-08/msg00039.php
I've been working with Palles ICU patch to make it wor
In other words ... if you can test this ... HELP!!!
I'll run tests.
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On E, 2005-08-22 at 02:14 +0300, Hannu Krosing wrote:
> Probably nonInVacuumXmin needs more care, i.e. initialising and setting
> it outside GetSnapshotData, at trx start and/or end. I'm too sleepy now
> to investigate further (it's 2:10 am here).
The attached patch works now as advertized so that
On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
To others who've written their own sleep() function: what are you
using it for?
I need it for API and user interface testing. I want to be sure
things behave correctly when a long running query is interrupted.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
http://pg
Palle Girgensohn wrote:
> > I feel it makes sense to apply the smaller patch in any case, so that
> > there's a Win32 solution not requiring ICU (ie, I can't see an argument
> > for doing (2) rather than (3)).
> >
> > Comments?
>
> I don't mind either way, but while Win32 will work with Magnus' pa
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Can someone please try running a build from CVS tip made on a modern box
(W2k3 or XP >= SP1 I believe) on a non-modern box (e.g. W2k) and see if
anything blows up? If it does then we either have to finish this work
now or revert the config file changes, I think.
W2k and
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 09:13:20PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michael Fuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What do people think of exposing pg_usleep() to the user?
>
> I'm not real enthused about it. Generally speaking, a sleep() on the
> database side means you are idling while holding locks, and
--On måndag, augusti 22, 2005 09.19.58 -0400 Bruce Momjian
wrote:
Palle Girgensohn wrote:
> I feel it makes sense to apply the smaller patch in any case, so that
> there's a Win32 solution not requiring ICU (ie, I can't see an argument
> for doing (2) rather than (3)).
>
> Comments?
I don't
Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please try to apply the patch, even if dangling BEGIN WORK; still causes
> problems - I'll fix this tomorrow.
No. A patch that you yourself have so little confidence in, in a
fundamental part of the system?
This will be lucky if it gets into 8.2, afte
Michael Adler wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 09:13:20PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Michael Fuhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > What do people think of exposing pg_usleep() to the user?
> >
> > I'm not real enthused about it. Generally speaking, a sleep() on the
> > database side means you ar
Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> wrote:
>> How is FreeBSD's Unicode support broken? I was not aware of that.
> FreeBSD has no unicode collation support. Hence the need for ICU.
Well, this obviously doesn't bother anyone who uses FreeBSD, so it need
not bother us either. I do not
--On måndag, augusti 22, 2005 10.12.11 -0400 Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
wrote:
How is FreeBSD's Unicode support broken? I was not aware of that.
FreeBSD has no unicode collation support. Hence the need for ICU.
Well, this obvious
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> In any case, I wonder how many people, not having a sleep() function,
> effect a delay with a busy loop; an example of such has been posted
> in response to the thread in pgsql-admin, and didn't the regression
> tests do so until recently? That se
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 08:14, John DeSoi wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
>
> > To others who've written their own sleep() function: what are you
> > using it for?
>
>
> I need it for API and user interface testing. I want to be sure
> things behave correctly when a
"Dave Page" writes:
> Sure it's trivial in various languages, even in trusted PL/Tcl:
>
> CREATE FUNCTION sleep(integer) RETURNS void AS $$
> after [expr $1 * 1000]
> $$ LANGUAGE pltcl STRICT;
Do any of the trusted languages count branches and abort after some large
number to prevent trusted c
pgman wrote:
> Is enable_constraint_exclusion the proper name for this feature? I know
> we have enable* in the optimizer settings, but that naming seems
> unfortunate in that we should have just called it hash_join and it could
> be enabled/disabled.
>
> I am thinking we should just call it cons
Greg Stark wrote:
"Dave Page" writes:
Sure it's trivial in various languages, even in trusted PL/Tcl:
CREATE FUNCTION sleep(integer) RETURNS void AS $$
after [expr $1 * 1000]
$$ LANGUAGE pltcl STRICT;
Do any of the trusted languages count branches and abort after some large
numbe
On E, 2005-08-22 at 10:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Please try to apply the patch, even if dangling BEGIN WORK; still causes
> > problems - I'll fix this tomorrow.
>
> No. A patch that you yourself have so little confidence in, in a
> fundamental part
Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
>>> To others who've written their own sleep() function: what are you
>>> using it for?
> I know I've used one for a script that reindexes various tables on an
> old 7.3 server. I put a sleep of 20 second
Bruce Momjian writes:
> pgman wrote:
>> Is enable_constraint_exclusion the proper name for this feature? I know
>> we have enable* in the optimizer settings, but that naming seems
>> unfortunate in that we should have just called it hash_join and it could
>> be enabled/disabled.
>>
>> I am think
I am thinking we should just call it constraint_exclusion.
So, given the silence on this, I assume people think we should rename
this before beta starts.
Well it depends either one seems correct per the postgresql.conf. For
example enable_seqscan, or "add"_missing_from_clause.
It seems th
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 12:24:34AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > So why bother with driving multiple invocations of psql under
> > Expect. Just use DBD::Pg to open as many connections as you want and
> > issue whatever queries you want.
>
> The bit that I thin
Is anybody working on allowing indexes to span multiple tables?
IF not, I'll give it a try.
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >>
> >>I am thinking we should just call it constraint_exclusion.
> >
> >
> > So, given the silence on this, I assume people think we should rename
> > this before beta starts.
>
> Well it depends either one seems correct per the postgresql.conf. For
> example enable_se
Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But I could not find the breakage (from your Aug 17 email) with
>> You missed vac_truncate_clog, though.
That was fixed (and documented), along with some other problems,
in the modified patch I sent back to you:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-pa
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 08:55:09AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 18:11:54 +0800,
> William ZHANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "create user foo with createdb" will create a user with createdb privilege.
> > "create user bar with createuser" will create s superuser who c
On Monday 22 August 2005 11:53, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
> >>> To others who've written their own sleep() function: what are you
> >>> using it for?
> >
> > I know I've used one for a script that reindexes vari
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 11:39:59AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian writes:
> > I am wondering if is worth managing which items should be displayed or
> > not, and if we should just give up and display them all. The GUC system
> > is just too dynamic.
>
> Not sure. I count 98 GUC variable
Learn something new every day...
(and yeah, I never understood why tcsh uses ^D, especially that if you do ^D on
a newline you disconnect...)
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> -Original Me
Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is anybody working on allowing indexes to span multiple tables?
> IF not, I'll give it a try.
Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
the locking considerations alone are a bit daunting.
See the archives for prior discussi
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about going the route of tcsh (and I'm sure others) where ^D shows
> you what your options are for tab-completion? This makes it much easier
> to find the option you're looking for.
readline does that already ... just not with ^D (which seems a dan
while you weren't looking, Tom Lane wrote:
[indexes spanning multiple tables]
> Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
> the locking considerations alone are a bit daunting.
That being the case, is there a list anywhere of open/wish list/TODO
items that are suitable f
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 08:55:09AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> For more information take a look at the CREATE ROLE command in the
>> developer docs.
> ISTM that it's a bug to be able to assign permissions that you don't
> yourself have. In this cas
On E, 2005-08-22 at 14:05 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But I could not find the breakage (from your Aug 17 email) with
>
> >> You missed vac_truncate_clog, though.
>
> That was fixed (and documented), along with some other problems,
> in the modified pat
It turns out I made a mistake in trying to be too smart about adding E''
escapes for ecpg strings that have backslashes. I have reversed the
attached patch to fix the problem. Thanks for the report.
---
Michael Fuhr wrote
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:49:35AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Stefan Kaltenbrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I played around with roles a bit today and noticed some minor things:
>
> > ALTER ROLE seems to support ALTER ROLE ROLE - but that
> > form is not mentioned in the docs:
>
> There ar
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 06:29:58PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Incidentally, use of a different SCM system might well make
> > constructing test sets more simple. Imagine, say, in SVN, you would
> > create a branch called "test-set--mm-dd" or some
Rosser Schwarz wrote:
while you weren't looking, Tom Lane wrote:
[indexes spanning multiple tables]
Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
the locking considerations alone are a bit daunting.
That being the case, is there a list anywhere of open/wish li
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 12:24:34AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > So why bother with driving multiple invocations of psql under
> > > Expect. Just use DBD::Pg to open as many connections as you want and
> > > is
On E, 2005-08-22 at 16:01 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is anybody working on allowing indexes to span multiple tables?
> > IF not, I'll give it a try.
>
> Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
> the locking considerations a
On Monday 22 August 2005 13:13, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 06:29:58PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Incidentally, use of a different SCM system might well make
> > > constructing test sets more simple. Imagine, say, in SVN, you would
Anything more on this? Contest start is in just over 3 weeks...
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 11:48:08AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Those of you who went to OSCON may have heard that SpikeSource is having a
> contest to increase testing code coverage of popular OSS projects. The
> contes
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 08:53:28AM -0700, Darcy Buskermolen wrote:
> I have a realworld test case of delete cascade (approx 90 cascaded tables,
> some more than 8 levels deep) failing on 8.0.3 (and 8.1) , this is one of a
> few issues that is preventing me from upgrading a couple of 7.4 boxen to
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:18 PM
> To: Jim Nasby
> Cc: Bruno Wolff III; William ZHANG; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] CREATE USER and pg_user
>
>
> "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
Alvaro Herrera wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:31:04PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
A couple of nice visible projects on the TODO list that might be
suitable for beginners:
. Add "include file" functionality in postgresql.conf
. Remove Money type, add money formatting for decimal type
Greg Stark wrote:
> Bruce Momjian writes:
>
> > Greg Stark wrote:
> > >
> > > show_parser_stats true
> > > enable_hashjoin true
> > >
> > > Nouns sound stranger and more awkward:
> > >
> > > geqo true
> > > parser_stats true
> > > hashjoin true
> >
> > Interesting analysis. No verb in ther
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:31:04PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>
> Rosser Schwarz wrote:
>
> >while you weren't looking, Tom Lane wrote:
> >
> >[indexes spanning multiple tables]
> >
> >
> >
> >>Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
> >>the locking considerations
Bruce Momjian writes:
> Greg Stark wrote:
> >
> > show_parser_stats true
> > enable_hashjoin true
> >
> > Nouns sound stranger and more awkward:
> >
> > geqo true
> > parser_stats true
> > hashjoin true
>
> Interesting analysis. No verb in there.
Note that the verb isn't always the same a
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:31:04PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> A couple of nice visible projects on the TODO list that might be
> suitable for beginners:
>
> . Add "include file" functionality in postgresql.conf
> . Remove Money type, add money formatting for decimal type
Actually they are b
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 09:50:10PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Satoshi Nagayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've done a quick hack to implement PCTFREE on PostgreSQL.
> > ...
> > According to my experiments, pgbench score was improved 10% or more
> > with 1024 bytes free space.
>
> I'm not very e
If someone wants to mark easy items on the TODO list with some mark,
like %, I can apply the patch. Please patch TODO and not TODO.html.
---
Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>
>
> Rosser Schwarz wrote:
>
> >while you weren't lookin
Actually they are both bad projects. The "include file" patch was
submitted by the @mohawksoft guy whose name I can't remember; it was
rejected with good reasons. The money type was proposed for removal
some time ago, and the author also asked not to.
Well the money type seems it should be a
Jim,
> Anything more on this? Contest start is in just over 3 weeks...
Nope. I've get to get a committer to promise to review submitted tests.
That's the main thing I need before we can commit to participation.
I'll also be drafting some docs on requirements for regression tests, but
that'
Greg Stark wrote:
>
> Bruce Momjian writes:
>
> > I thought about that, but is seems all our booleans could logically fall
> > into the category of being enabled/disabled. For add_missing_from, the
> > add word is so people realize that it is really _adding_ to the FROM
> > list, so I see it as
Hello,
Would work on one of the pl languages constitute a good place for a
beginning hacker to start?
plPerl, plPython, plRuby, and plPHP all need support for IN/OUT
parameters I believe.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 11:53:22AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Robert Treat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Michael Fuhr wrote:
> >>> To others who've written their own sleep() function: what are you
> >>> using it for?
>
> > I know I've used one for a script that reind
Bruce Momjian writes:
> I thought about that, but is seems all our booleans could logically fall
> into the category of being enabled/disabled. For add_missing_from, the
> add word is so people realize that it is really _adding_ to the FROM
> list, so I see it as different.
>
> Anyway, change
On Mon, 2005-08-22 at 15:24 -0500, Rosser Schwarz wrote:
> while you weren't looking, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> [indexes spanning multiple tables]
>
> > Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
> > the locking considerations alone are a bit daunting.
>
> That being the case,
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 02:28:54PM -0700, Darcy Buskermolen wrote:
> On Monday 22 August 2005 13:13, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > Of course we could use pgbench for this instead of dbt*, but ISTM that
> > dbt is a better choice since it's useful for a broader set of people.
> > The downside is it requir
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >> Actually they are both bad projects. The "include file" patch was
> >> submitted by the @mohawksoft guy whose name I can't remember; it was
> >> rejected with good reasons. The money type was proposed for removal
> >> some time ago, and the author also asked not to.
Folks,
First off, I was going through PostgreSQL.conf.sample, and noticed that the
bgwriter GUCs had multiplied:
#bgwriter_delay = 200 # 10-1 milliseconds between rounds
#bgwriter_lru_percent = 1.0 # 0-100% of LRU buffers scanned in each
round
#bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 5 #
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
Hello,
Would work on one of the pl languages constitute a good place for a
beginning hacker to start?
plPerl, plPython, plRuby, and plPHP all need support for IN/OUT
parameters I believe.
Probably need named parameter support first, I suspect.
But I also suspec
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 05:53:14PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> If someone wants to mark easy items on the TODO list with some mark,
> like %, I can apply the patch. Please patch TODO and not TODO.html.
I'll take a stab at this unless someone else beats me to it; though I'm
not a coder myself
Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> Can someone turn these items into a "beginning hacker's TODO" as has
> been discussed before? Or find a way to mark them on the main TODO?
>
> If someone wants to tell me how this should be done and give me whatever
> files need to be changed I'd be happy to submit a patch.
Hello,
When doing:
SELECT * FROM pg_user;
foo=# select * from pg_user;
usename | usesysid | usecreatedb | usesuper | usecatupd | passwd |
valuntil | useconfig
-+--+-+--+---+--+--+---
jd | 10 | t | t
I wrote:
> I've been sniffing around that patch and not really finding any smoking
> gun about why it would make things slower when you're not using O_DIRECT.
While rewriting the patch to fit more naturally into xlog.c, I found a
bug that might possibly be related to your performance issue. The
i
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 03:56:48PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Folks,
>
> First off, I was going through PostgreSQL.conf.sample, and noticed that the
> bgwriter GUCs had multiplied:
>
> #bgwriter_delay = 200 # 10-1 milliseconds between rounds
> #bgwriter_lru_percent = 1.0 # 0-1
Josh Berkus writes:
> I find the addition a little baffling, since previous tests ... both mine,
> and discussion of tests last December ... showed that manipulating the
> bgwriter variables had no useful effects, and one might as well leave them
> alone.
Perhaps that just proves that you're u
"Jim Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, but it doesn't really specify if you have to have a privilege in order
> to grant it, although reading one of the notes[1] tends to indicate that you
> must have a role in order to grant it. Unless I'm overlooking some part of
> the docs?
It says
* Allow ALTER TABLE ... ALTER CONSTRAINT ... RENAME
That one is easy and handy.
Chris
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"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> foo=# create role foo with createdb;
> CREATE ROLE
> foo=# create user foo;
> ERROR: role "foo" already exists
> I understand what is happening, but perhaps the error should be:
> A role "foo" already exists which can not be the same as a username?
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 09:19:46PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> "Jim Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes, but it doesn't really specify if you have to have a privilege in order
> > to grant it, although reading one of the notes[1] tends to indicate that
> > you must have a role in order to gra
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ... But I agree with Satoshi; if there are
> people who will benefit from this option (which doesn't hurt those who
> choose not to use it), why not put it in?
Because there's no such thing as a free lunch. Every option we support
costs us in initial i
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My original point was that if you don't have permission to do something,
> you shouldn't be able to grant permissions to do it. This applies to all
> the permissions, not just superuser (though that one's obviously the
> most dangerous). Granted, at this
Tom Lane wrote:
> "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>... But I agree with Satoshi; if there are
>>people who will benefit from this option (which doesn't hurt those who
>>choose not to use it), why not put it in?
>
>
> Because there's no such thing as a free lunch. Every option we s
I have compiled the 8.1 release notes and converted them to SGML at:
http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1
I still need to add markup and cleanup, but it is good enough for
review and for beta1. I will work on it more tomorrow.
--
Bruce Momjian
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 04:01:04PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is anybody working on allowing indexes to span multiple tables?
> > IF not, I'll give it a try.
>
> Wouldn't recommend it as a project for a beginning backend hacker;
> the locking conside
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 23:16:14 -0400,
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> I have compiled the 8.1 release notes and converted them to SGML at:
>
> http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/sgml/release.html#RELEASE-8-1
>
> I still need to add markup and cleanup, but it is good enough for
> review and
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Tom Lane wrote:
> Gavin Sherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've written some quick scripts. One just vacuums constantly (999 vacuums
> > to 1 vacuum full) while three other scripts three randomly insert
> > into, update and delete from 3 tables. There's a mix of small and
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