On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:22 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
None of that involves answering hypothetical questions; but what you
want to do does, and that I think is the problem in a nutshell.
In a nutshell I'd like PostgreSQL to just re-parse the *current* view
definition. Should
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 2014-05-21 07:29:53 -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Looking at
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/protocol-replication.html
under START_REPLICATION it goes
The payload of each CopyData message from
Jan Urbański made a presentation titled 'Postgres on the wire',
subtitle 'A look at the PostgreSQL wire protocol'. I hope this
covers some of your interest. Presentation slide deck is available
at
http://www.pgcon.org/2014/schedule/attachments/330_postgres-for-the-wire.pdf
Hope it helps;
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
The requirements we were discussing were around
A) reducing WAL
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 29 May 2014 01:07, Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:04:13PM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
On 28 May 2014 15:34, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, compress_backup_block GUC
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:22 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
None of that involves answering hypothetical questions; but what you
want to do does, and that I think is the problem in a nutshell.
In a nutshell I'd like PostgreSQL to just
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Heikki Linnakangas
hlinnakan...@vmware.com wrote:
And here is the tool itself. It consists of two parts:
1. Modifications to the backend to write the page images
2. A post-processing tool to compare the logged images between master and
standby.
Having that
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Greg Stark st...@mit.edu wrote:
So I ran into the case again where a system crashed while a hot backup
was being taken. Postgres couldn't start up automatically because the
backup_label was present. This has come up before e.g.
Robert Haas wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 2014-05-21 07:29:53 -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
More generally, it is weird that the message formats are described
there, even though the rest of the protocol documentation only mentions
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
What exactly do you mean by re-parse the current view definition?
The only form of the view definition we actually have is already
parsed into an internal form (see pg_rewrite) which, for the reasons
I've attempted to explain, is not easy to adapt to
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
You're concerned about the scenario using pg_upgrade? I'm not sure the detail
of pg_upgrade. But if it doesn't work properly, we should have gotten
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Dmitry Dolgov 9erthali...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm little confused by the convertJsonbValue functon at jsonb_utils.c
Maybe I misunderstood something, so I need help =)
if (IsAJsonbScalar(val) || val-type == jbvBinary)
convertJsonbScalar(buffer, header, val);
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:22 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
None of that involves answering hypothetical questions; but what you
want to do does, and that I think is the problem in a nutshell.
In a nutshell I'd like
On 2014-06-02 22:59:55 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
You're concerned about the scenario using pg_upgrade? I'm not sure the
detail
of pg_upgrade.
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Should this fail, the user will have to work around it, but most of the
time it could just work.
You're either missing or choosing to ignore the point that I'm making,
which is that we
On 06/02/2014 10:02 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Dmitry Dolgov 9erthali...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm little confused by the convertJsonbValue functon at jsonb_utils.c
Maybe I misunderstood something, so I need help =)
if (IsAJsonbScalar(val) || val-type == jbvBinary)
David Rowley dgrowle...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not quite there with inner joins yet. I'm still getting my head around
just where the join quals are actually stored.
TBH I think that trying to do anything at all for inner joins is probably
a bad idea. The cases where the optimization could
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
David Rowley dgrowle...@gmail.com writes:
I'm not quite there with inner joins yet. I'm still getting my head around
just where the join quals are actually stored.
TBH I think that trying to do anything at all for inner joins is probably
a bad idea.
Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us writes:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Should this fail, the user will have to work around it, but most of the
time it could just work.
You're either missing or choosing to ignore the
On 06/02/2014 10:22 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
On 06/02/2014 10:02 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Dmitry Dolgov
9erthali...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm little confused by the convertJsonbValue functon at jsonb_utils.c
Maybe I misunderstood something, so I need help =)
if
Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net writes:
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
TBH I think that trying to do anything at all for inner joins is probably
a bad idea. The cases where the optimization could succeed are so narrow
that it's unlikely to be worth adding cycles to every query to
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
On 06/01/2014 05:35 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
I did a little bit of experimentation and determined that none of the
LATIN1 characters are significantly more portable than what we've got:
for instance a-acute fails to convert into 16 of the 33 supported
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Jeff Janes jeff.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Jeff Janes jeff.ja...@gmail.com
Hi,
On 2014-06-02 09:03:25 -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Jeff Janes jeff.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu,
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
Hi,
On 2014-06-02 09:03:25 -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
GNU make does not realize that pg_xlogdump depends
on src/backend/access/rmgrdesc/heapdesc.c. (I don't know how or why it
has
that dependency, but changes
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, ash a...@commandprompt.com wrote:
Should this fail, the user will have to work around it, but most of the
time it could just work.
You're either
Hi,
On 2014-06-02 10:15:19 -0700, Jeff Janes wrote:
Also, pg_xlogdump -p insists on being given a start position. I
would
be nice if it could just find the first file in the given directory. Any
reason it can't do that, other than just that no one implemented it yet?
It
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
The real problem in my mind is one of user expectations. If the database
silently does something behind your back, people expect that that action
will be *right* and they don't have
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
Yes, I've just been looking at that. I think this is probably a hangover
from when these routines were recast to some extent. Given that we're not
seeing any errors from it, I'd be inclined to remove the the || val-type
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
The real problem in my mind is one of user expectations. If the database
silently does something behind your back, people expect that that action
will be *right* and they don't
* Tom Lane (t...@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote:
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
I agree, but I think it's important to note that Alex's complaint is
not unique - the way things work now is a real source of frustration
for users.
Oh, I quite agree with that. My concern here has to do
On 06/02/2014 10:40 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Tom's point goes back to what I was trying to drive at originally-
people should have to ask for this. Perhaps we can provide a way for
them to ask which is explicit enough that they understand this might
not do exactly what you think it does, akin
On 2014-06-02 10:48:02 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
On 06/02/2014 10:40 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
Tom's point goes back to what I was trying to drive at originally-
people should have to ask for this. Perhaps we can provide a way for
them to ask which is explicit enough that they understand
On 2014-06-02 13:40:32 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
Of course, there is a question about if it's worth it to keep around the
exact text of each CREATE VIEW and build all this infrastructure for
something which will only work properly in a specific subset of cases
and in many others could break
Jeff Janes wrote:
GNU make does not realize that pg_xlogdump depends
on src/backend/access/rmgrdesc/heapdesc.c. (I don't know how or why it has
that dependency, but changes did not take effect with a simple make
install) Is that a known issue? Is there someway to fix it?
Uh, you're right,
Tom Lane wrote:
Oh, I quite agree with that. My concern here has to do with automatically
and silently making changes that we can't be very sure will meet the
user's expectations. Perhaps what we need is some kind of UI/API design
whereby the user can inspect/modify/approve the semantic
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
The real problem in my mind is one of user expectations. If the database
silently does something behind
Hi!
2014-06-02 19:16 GMT+02:00 Hai Qian hq...@gopivotal.com:
I like the second option for refactoring the code. I think it is doable.
And where is your code on Github?
It's not on Github, but on my own Gitlab (a self-hosted open-source
alternative to github). You can find it here [0]. I'm
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
One thing that concerns me is that we already had the problem that users
creating the uuid-ossp extension had to double-quote the name because of
the dash, and we have regularly
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
Oh, I quite agree with that. My concern here has to do with automatically
and silently making changes that we can't be very sure will meet the
user's expectations. Perhaps what we need is some kind of UI/API design
whereby the
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
FWIW, I don't think reparsing the original view-text is even remotely
plausible. The fact that views stay glued to the same objects even of
those objects are renamed is a pretty handy property of the current
system, and any sort of
I like the second option for refactoring the code. I think it is doable.
And where is your code on Github?
Hai
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Maxence Ahlouche maxence.ahlou...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all!
I've pushed my
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Josh Kupershmidt schmi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Gurjeet Singh gurj...@singh.im wrote:
When the Postgres server is being stopped/shut down, the `Buffer
Saver` scans the
shared-buffers of Postgres, and stores the unique block
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 2014-06-02 22:59:55 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com
wrote:
You're concerned
I wrote:
Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net writes:
Let's just stick to ASCII.
The more I think about it, the more I think that using a plain-ASCII
character would defeat most of the purpose of the test. Non-breaking
space seems like the best bet here, not least because it has several
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
Deparse-and-reparse might be better, but I'll bet that has too
many problems to be viable, too (even if I haven't yet thought of what
they are). For better or for worse, I think the best we're likely to
be able to do is
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
I think deparse-and-reparse is exactly what we have to do, mainly because,
if you subscribe to the idea that the user should see and approve semantic
changes, what else are we going to
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Keith Fiske ke...@omniti.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Haribabu Kommi kommi.harib...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:17 PM, dar...@dons.net.au wrote:
The following bug has been logged on the website:
reclog= select * from foo;
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Fujii Masao masao.fu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Amit Kapila amit.kapil...@gmail.com
wrote:
IIUC in DBW mechanism, we need to have a temporary sequential
log file of fixed size which will be used to write data before the data
gets
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