Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question

2007-02-22 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:09:48 -0800, Joshua D. 
Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

jd I believe that is much more accurate. The reality is, switching to
jd something else will be painful. I would prefer not to be on CVS as
jd well but it would take a lot of work and cvs does what we need it
jd to.

I can only tell you my own story, and that's a story of being sick and
damn (oh, I've a much stronger word, but I'm too polite to use it
here) tired of CVS, especially having had to deal with it's absolute
lack of merging capacity.  It's taken trying a number of other SCMs,
which were all a PITA, until I found monotone, before I decided I had
found a worthy replacement.

To each his or her own, I say, and as you say, chaging (or moving
on) takes some amount of effort, and you will not do it, as a group,
before more or less all (especially any core group) thinks it's worth
more than staying with the current system.

Cheers,
Richard

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question

2007-02-22 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:38:26 +0100, Markus 
Schiltknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

markus  So far, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of
markus  opinions on what replacement system to use, a bit carelessly
markus  before having answered the above questions thoroughly.
markus 
markus How did you get that impression?

You said it yourself: Most PostgreSQL developers currently want to
stay with CVS.

Unless there's a majority that wants to move on, I doubt there will be
a move.  In the end, it has to be a group effort, or it will simply
not happen.

Cheers,
Richard

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question

2007-02-22 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
If I may, I'll add a few words to this discussion:

Basically, I'm seeing that three things need to be decided upon:

  1. Do you want to stay with CVS or do you want to move to something
 else?
  2. If you want to move, when?  Is now a good time, or is it better
 to look at it another time.  This may be a question of what
 people you have who'd do the job, what kind of time they have for
 the moment and so on.
  3. What would you want a replacement to be able to do?

When those questions are answered and people are behind it, then it's
time to look at the different systems and see what' the best match to
your desires.

So far, I'm getting the sense that there are a lot of opinions on what
replacement system to use, a bit carelessly before having answered the
above questions thoroughly.

HTH.

Cheers,
Richard

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question

2007-02-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:57:53 +0100, Markus 
Schiltknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

markus Uh, yah. But I was refering to the lots of opinions on what
markus replacement system to use. This has not much to do with the
markus want or need (for lack of a better alternative) to stay with
markus CVS, IMO.

Oh, it's an academic discussion?  Sorry, didn't catch that.

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Re: [HACKERS] SCMS question

2007-02-25 Thread Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:42:13 -0300, Alvaro 
Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

alvherre Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker wrote:
alvherre  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:57:53 +0100, 
Markus Schiltknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
alvherre  
alvherre  markus Uh, yah. But I was refering to the lots of
alvherre  markus opinions on what replacement system to use. This
alvherre  markus has not much to do with the want or need (for lack
alvherre  markus of a better alternative) to stay with CVS, IMO.
alvherre  
alvherre  Oh, it's an academic discussion?  Sorry, didn't catch that.
alvherre 
alvherre It's only academic because Monotone is not ready.  As soon
alvherre as it is ready we will be pushing much harder.

You know, I wasn't trying to push any SCM in particular, even though I
did mention monotone in one post.

Cheers,
Richard

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