Re: [HACKERS] Patch queue concern

2007-03-28 Thread Carlo Florendo

Gregory Stark wrote:

Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's silly, of course people are still working on them, many of these tasks
are open ended and can be improved as long as we have time. just because
they're still working on them doesn't necessarily mean what they have so far
isn't worth committing as is yet.


OK, but we don't want something that is ready to be committed, we need
it complete.


So how many more releases before you think Postgres is complete? 


You are using the word complete as in final and unalterable.  That's not, 
it seems to me, what Bruce means.  Bruce has a point, and a valid and 
sensible one at that.


A patch that is ready to be committed does not mean it is usable.  Just 
because you can commit a patch does not mean that the patch will be useful.


Well, if a patch author has promised to supply a patch for the X function, 
and has not completed a stable and generally usable patch for X, then the 
patch is not worth committing.


Thank you very much.

Best Regards,

Carlo

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Re: [HACKERS] Patch queue concern

2007-03-28 Thread Carlo Florendo

Gregory Stark wrote:


In any case I think Simon and you have fallen into the trap of thinking of
development as a single-person project. Most developers here, especially
first-time contributors, don't just work in the dark on their own and turn up
with a finished patch. They have questions and need help in areas. If you
insist on a finished patch before you even consider reviewing their work
it's not going to work.


This isn't about finished patches.  It's about commit-worthy patches, 
and since the term is very subjective, there has to be some way for an 
arbiter to be able to say that such a patch is worth committing.  And I 
think the arbiter should not come from any of the two opposing sides with 
diametrically opposed claims or opinions.


Thank you very much.

Best Regards,

Carlo


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Carlo Florendo
Softare Engineer/Network Co-Administrator
Astra Philippines Inc.
UP-Ayala Technopark, Diliman 1101, Quezon City
Philippines
http://www.astra.ph

--
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5-3-11 Sekido, Tama City
Tokyo 206-0011, Japan
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Re: [HACKERS] Release notes

2006-09-12 Thread Carlo Florendo

Bruce Momjian wrote:

Dave Page wrote:
  
 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Fuhr

Sent: 12 September 2006 19:57
To: Bruce Momjian
Cc: PostgreSQL-development
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Release notes

On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 02:31:22PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
  

I again will not be able to complete the release notes today as
promised.  My next target date is Monday, August 18.  Sorry.


The next Monday, August 18, is in 2008.  Surely that'll be
enough time ;-)
  

Someone will have to speak to Denis about getting Bruce more community
time :-)



It is more family activity that is causing my delays.  I was hoping to
carve out last weekend to work on it, but I couldn't.  I wish I could
blame Denis.  ;-)

  
The family is more important than PostgreSQL.  Having fun with the 
family indeed gives energy to someone to work.  So, go family fun!


Best Regards,

Carlo Florendo
Astra Philippines Inc.
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Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta

2006-09-07 Thread Carlo Florendo

Alvaro Herrera wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

  
It does not mean all those features are useful, they definitely are. I 
am just trying to look at it from at:


WHIZ* BANG* POW* perspective.



Holy crap, Batman!  This database can do

INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1,1, 'so long'), (42, 2, 'and thanks'),
(142857, 3, 'for all the fish')
  


I just lurk here at pgsql-hackers.

That function would be very cool.

Thanks!

Best Regards,

Carlo Florendo
Astra Philippines Inc.
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