Re: [HACKERS] Patch queue concern
Gregory Stark wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's silly, of course people are still working on them, many of these tasks are open ended and can be improved as long as we have time. just because they're still working on them doesn't necessarily mean what they have so far isn't worth committing as is yet. OK, but we don't want something that is ready to be committed, we need it complete. So how many more releases before you think Postgres is complete? You are using the word complete as in final and unalterable. That's not, it seems to me, what Bruce means. Bruce has a point, and a valid and sensible one at that. A patch that is ready to be committed does not mean it is usable. Just because you can commit a patch does not mean that the patch will be useful. Well, if a patch author has promised to supply a patch for the X function, and has not completed a stable and generally usable patch for X, then the patch is not worth committing. Thank you very much. Best Regards, Carlo -- Carlo Florendo Softare Engineer/Network Co-Administrator Astra Philippines Inc. UP-Ayala Technopark, Diliman 1101, Quezon City Philippines http://www.astra.ph -- The Astra Group of Companies 5-3-11 Sekido, Tama City Tokyo 206-0011, Japan http://www.astra.co.jp ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Patch queue concern
Gregory Stark wrote: In any case I think Simon and you have fallen into the trap of thinking of development as a single-person project. Most developers here, especially first-time contributors, don't just work in the dark on their own and turn up with a finished patch. They have questions and need help in areas. If you insist on a finished patch before you even consider reviewing their work it's not going to work. This isn't about finished patches. It's about commit-worthy patches, and since the term is very subjective, there has to be some way for an arbiter to be able to say that such a patch is worth committing. And I think the arbiter should not come from any of the two opposing sides with diametrically opposed claims or opinions. Thank you very much. Best Regards, Carlo -- Carlo Florendo Softare Engineer/Network Co-Administrator Astra Philippines Inc. UP-Ayala Technopark, Diliman 1101, Quezon City Philippines http://www.astra.ph -- The Astra Group of Companies 5-3-11 Sekido, Tama City Tokyo 206-0011, Japan http://www.astra.co.jp ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] Release notes
Bruce Momjian wrote: Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Fuhr Sent: 12 September 2006 19:57 To: Bruce Momjian Cc: PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Release notes On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 02:31:22PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: I again will not be able to complete the release notes today as promised. My next target date is Monday, August 18. Sorry. The next Monday, August 18, is in 2008. Surely that'll be enough time ;-) Someone will have to speak to Denis about getting Bruce more community time :-) It is more family activity that is causing my delays. I was hoping to carve out last weekend to work on it, but I couldn't. I wish I could blame Denis. ;-) The family is more important than PostgreSQL. Having fun with the family indeed gives energy to someone to work. So, go family fun! Best Regards, Carlo Florendo Astra Philippines Inc. www.astra.ph ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] Getting a move on for 8.2 beta
Alvaro Herrera wrote: Joshua D. Drake wrote: It does not mean all those features are useful, they definitely are. I am just trying to look at it from at: WHIZ* BANG* POW* perspective. Holy crap, Batman! This database can do INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1,1, 'so long'), (42, 2, 'and thanks'), (142857, 3, 'for all the fish') I just lurk here at pgsql-hackers. That function would be very cool. Thanks! Best Regards, Carlo Florendo Astra Philippines Inc. www.astra.ph ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster