Re: [HACKERS] BDR-project

2014-01-08 Thread Simon Riggs
On 25 December 2013 12:01, Andreas Joseph Krogh andr...@officenet.no wrote:

 Ref:
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/BDR_Project

 Is implementing main BDR features into core Postgres a probable objective to
 version 9.4?

I've not updated hackers recently on this point, so thanks for asking
the question. This was discussed in the ending keynote of the PG
Europe conference, but I appreciate that's not the same thing as
saying it here.

The plan is

* submit the core logical replication technology for 9.4
* submit online upgrade as a feature for 9.5, allowing upgrades from 9.4+
* submit full BDR features for 9.6

BDR code will be released as a separate open source project until/if
core accepts/modifies that. There's lots of work and discussion to be
had yet, so the above plan is a reasonable schedule for achieving
change allowing input from all. Design to full feature submission
would be 4.5 years, plus we expect the features to mature/extend after
that, so there's no rush, just steady movement.

No attempts to publicise that as yet, but if all goes well we expect
to do that once 9.4 is released.

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Re: [HACKERS] BDR-project

2014-01-08 Thread Andreas Joseph Krogh
På onsdag 08. januar 2014 kl. 18:57:52, skrev Simon Riggs si...@2ndquadrant.com
 mailto:si...@2ndquadrant.com: On 25 December 2013 12:01, Andreas Joseph 
Krogh andr...@officenet.no wrote:

  Ref:
  http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/BDR_Project
 
  Is implementing main BDR features into core Postgres a probable objective to
  version 9.4?

 I've not updated hackers recently on this point, so thanks for asking
 the question. This was discussed in the ending keynote of the PG
 Europe conference, but I appreciate that's not the same thing as
 saying it here.

 The plan is

 * submit the core logical replication technology for 9.4
 * submit online upgrade as a feature for 9.5, allowing upgrades from 9.4+
 * submit full BDR features for 9.6

 BDR code will be released as a separate open source project until/if
 core accepts/modifies that. There's lots of work and discussion to be
 had yet, so the above plan is a reasonable schedule for achieving
 change allowing input from all. Design to full feature submission
 would be 4.5 years, plus we expect the features to mature/extend after
 that, so there's no rush, just steady movement.

 No attempts to publicise that as yet, but if all goes well we expect
 to do that once 9.4 is released.   Thanks for the update!   --
 Andreas Joseph Krogh andr...@officenet.no      mob: +47 909 56 963
 Senior Software Developer / CTO - OfficeNet AS - http://www.officenet.no
 Public key: http://home.officenet.no/~andreak/public_key.asc  

Re: [HACKERS] BDR-project

2013-12-26 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On 12/25/13, 7:01 AM, Andreas Joseph Krogh wrote:
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/BDR_Project
  
 Is implementing main BDR features into core Postgres a probable
 objective to version 9.4?

No.

No BDR feature has been proposed for core PostgreSQL so far.  Also, this
feature builds on top of the logical replication features, which are
themselves questionable for 9.4.



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Re: [HACKERS] BDR-project

2013-12-26 Thread Andres Freund
Hi,

On 2013-12-26 14:26:15 -0500, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 On 12/25/13, 7:01 AM, Andreas Joseph Krogh wrote:
  http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/BDR_Project
  Is implementing main BDR features into core Postgres a probable
  objective to version 9.4?

Not fully. We hope to integrate some of the building blocks into
postgres soon, so we can reduce the size of the diff. Then the plan is
to iteratively (continue) to submit features required.

 No BDR feature has been proposed for core PostgreSQL so far.  Also, this
 feature builds on top of the logical replication features, which are
 themselves questionable for 9.4.

Well, that's not really true. For one, changeset extraction actually is
part of the effort, which surely has been submitted. There also have
been some further submissions which help build robust replication
solutions. One or two of those might be possible to get into 9.4 (they
have been in the last CF...)

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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[HACKERS] BDR-project

2013-12-25 Thread Andreas Joseph Krogh
Hi hackers.   Ref: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/BDR_Project   Is 
implementing main BDR features into core Postgres a probable objective to 
version 9.4?   Thanks.   --
 Andreas Joseph Krogh andr...@officenet.no      mob: +47 909 56 963
 Senior Software Developer / CTO - OfficeNet AS - http://www.officenet.no
 Public key: http://home.officenet.no/~andreak/public_key.asc