Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-05 Thread Ron Mayer
chris wrote: C++0x standards committee where they finalized long long as being required to be 8 AFAIK, we oughtn't care what C++ standards say, because PostgreSQL is implemented in C, and therefore needs to follow what the *C* standards say. I agree the C++ standards should matter one bit to

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-04 Thread chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Ken Camann") writes: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Ken Camann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> EMT64/AMD64 is new compared to the older architectures, I >>> would guess the older ones predate the time when it became a somewhat >>> de

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 01:45:06AM -0400, Ken Camann wrote: > When 32-bit arrived (much too late, at Microsoft) most x86 compilers > that had formerly used the segmented memory model made int 4 bytes > like people felt "it was supposed to be" but left long at 4 the way it > was so as not to bloat a

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-03 Thread Mark Mielke
Tom Lane wrote: To get a working WIN64 port it'd be necessary to go around and replace long with size_t/ssize_t in the places where it matters --- but there are not 450 of them, I don't think. And I'd advise not touching the places that use int; that will just bloat the patch and make it harder

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Present us the actual problems as you discover them, and we will find a > solution. Right now we are just guessing. >> There seems to be two problems that affect 64-bit POSIX systems too: > Well, 64-bit POSIX works just fine, so unless you can pres

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Ken Camann: > > Anyway, back to the immediate problem. What would probably make sense > > to try as a first step is something like > > > > #ifndef WIN64 > > typedef unsigned long Datum;/* XXX sizeof(long) >= sizeof(void *) */ > > #else > > typedef unsigned l

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-03 Thread Mark Mielke
A bit long - the summary is that "intptr_t" should probably be used, assuming I understand the problem this thread is talking about: Ken Camann wrote: 1. An object in memory can have size "Size" (= size_t). So its big (maybe 8 bytes). 2. An index into the buffer containing that object has inde

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Ken Camann
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ken Camann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> EMT64/AMD64 is new compared to the older architectures, I >> would guess the older ones predate the time when it became a somewhat >> de facto standard to leave "long int" at 4 bytes,

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
"Ken Camann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well actually, let me be as strict as possible because I don't know > the latest C standards very well (I am a C++ programmer). Am I > correct that the standard says that sizeof(size_t) must be > sizeof(void*), and that no compiler has ever said otherwise

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Ken Camann
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ken Camann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Oh I see. Between this and looking again at the warning list, I see >> that it will probably take a lot more work than I thought. There are >> about 450 occurrences of the assumption

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
"Ken Camann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh I see. Between this and looking again at the warning list, I see > that it will probably take a lot more work than I thought. There are > about 450 occurrences of the assumption that sizeof(size_t) == > sizeof(int). [ blink... ] There are *zero* occ

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Dave Page
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Ken Camann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd really like to help out with this, but I'm not sure I can work on > a patch even if I change these things for myself. Fixing this code > would touch a lot of important internals in postgres (albeit in a > small way), so my

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Ken Camann
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Bernd Helmle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --On Mittwoch, Juli 02, 2008 07:39:29 -0400 Ken Camann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I assume it would only really matter if you did this to >> a pointer, and perhaps that is happening somewhere (but I doubt it >> since

Re: [HACKERS] A Windows x64 port of PostgreSQL

2008-07-02 Thread Zdenek Kotala
Ken Camann napsal(a): Hello everyone, I don't really know much about contributing to projects, mailing lists, or really anything that has to do with the UNIX culture (I am not a UNIX fan). So forgive my ignorance of how this is supposed to work. I think you meant PostgreSQL not MySQL in the s