[HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Lee Kindness
Just overheard one of my colleagues on the phone to one of our users taking them through the process of moving their PGDATA to a partition with space... With the various paths, service names, config files and environment variables PostgreSQL appears to have a multiple-personality disorder... Is

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Michael Glaesemann
Hi Lee On Jan 16, 2004, at 8:09 PM, Lee Kindness wrote: With the various paths, service names, config files and environment variables PostgreSQL appears to have a multiple-personality disorder... Is it: postgresql (/etc/init.d/postgresql, postgresql.conf), or postmaster (main postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Jeff Davis
I too was a little confused when starting out with PostgreSQL as to what the difference was between some of these things, but they need different names so people can distinguish between them. You make a good point, and I think that's easier for developers to work with. However, why do

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Jan 16, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: I can't point to any OSS project that completely renames its parts. I think a shortened version of the name makes sense (in this case postgres works well, but so does pgsql), and other projects do similar things. Psql for the client and postmaster for

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Jeff Davis wrote: I can't point to any OSS project that completely renames its parts. I think a shortened version of the name makes sense (in this case postgres works well, but so does pgsql), and other projects do similar things. Psql for the client and postmaster for

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 16, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: I can't point to any OSS project that completely renames its parts. I think a shortened version of the name makes sense (in this case postgres works well, but so does pgsql), and other projects

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Thomas Swan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Jan 16, 2004, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Davis wrote: I can't point to any OSS project that completely renames its parts. I think a shortened version of the name makes sense (in this case postgres works well, but so does

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Thomas Swan wrote: Perhaps postgresd, postgresqld, or pg_daemon might be a little more intuitive? I think at this late stage in the game (almost 10 years), changing could be a bit difficult and confusing, no? :) I'd go with something like pgsqld myself though, keeps it

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Lee Kindness
Marc G. Fournier writes: I think at this late stage in the game (almost 10 years), changing could be a bit difficult and confusing, no? :) I'd go with something like pgsqld myself though, keeps it short ... or we could go even shorter with just pgd ... But, I'm not, in any stretch

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Thomas Swan
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Thomas Swan wrote: Perhaps postgresd, postgresqld, or pg_daemon might be a little more intuitive? I think at this late stage in the game (almost 10 years), changing could be a bit difficult and confusing, no? :) I'd go with something like

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Matthew T. O'Connor
Thomas Swan wrote: I just thought the anecdote of confusing it for an MTA was a little funny. Funny yes, but unfortunatly all too common for newbies I think. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend

Re: [HACKERS] nomenclature

2004-01-16 Thread Neil Conway
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you think about it, the postmaster is actually aptly named, since it is the process that sorts out the incoming connections and assigns them to backend processes ... just like the postmaster does with your mail ... Right, hence the witty pun :-)