Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-18 11:44 GMT+02:00 Alvaro Herrera : > Pavel Stehule wrote: > > > I am looking on man pagers - and there are very well readable > > > > The rules are simply - when some variables are short - less than 6 chars, > > then it description and label are on same line.

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Pavel Stehule wrote: > I am looking on man pagers - and there are very well readable > > The rules are simply - when some variables are short - less than 6 chars, > then it description and label are on same line. Between items are empty > line I was having a similar idea. I'm not sure how many

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-14 16:35 GMT+02:00 Pavel Stehule : > > > 2017-09-14 15:17 GMT+02:00 Alvaro Herrera : > >> Tom Lane wrote: >> > "David G. Johnston" writes: >> > >​If I was going to try and read it like a book I'd want the extra

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-14 15:17 GMT+02:00 Alvaro Herrera : > Tom Lane wrote: > > "David G. Johnston" writes: > > >​If I was going to try and read it like a book I'd want the extra > > > white-space to make doing so easier (white-space gives the eye a >

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Tom Lane wrote: > "David G. Johnston" writes: > >​If I was going to try and read it like a book I'd want the extra > > white-space to make doing so easier (white-space gives the eye a breather > > when done with a particular concept) - and the length wouldn't really >

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hello, Personnally I'm fine with a pager, so vertical spacing is fine. I just do not like paging horizontally. ​-1​ [...] ​If I was going to try and read it like a book I'd want the extra white-space to make doing so easier (white-space gives the eye a breather when done with a particular

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

"David G. Johnston" writes: >​If I was going to try and read it like a book I'd want the extra > white-space to make doing so easier (white-space gives the eye a breather > when done with a particular concept) - and the length wouldn't really > matter since I'd just

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Fabien COELHO wrote: > > Hello Tom, > > Probably it needs some rebase after Tom committed result status variables. >>> >> >> As it is a style thing, ISTM that the patch is ready if most people agree >>> that it is better this way and there

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hello Tom, Probably it needs some rebase after Tom committed result status variables. As it is a style thing, ISTM that the patch is ready if most people agree that it is better this way and there is no strong veto against. FWIW, I think it's a bad idea. We already nearly-doubled the

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Alvaro Herrera writes: > Why is it that we're not opening the pager automatically when this help > is invoked via psql --help=variables? "\? variables" already does that. Hm, given that output from a -c option does get paginated (I just checked), maybe that should

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Most of the time I suppose you'd search (using the pager's search function) whatever you're looking for, rather than read the whole page from top to bottom. Why is it that we're not opening the pager automatically when this help is invoked via psql --help=variables? "\? variables" already does

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-13 16:11 GMT+02:00 Tom Lane : > Fabien COELHO writes: > >> I'll assign this patch to next commitfest > > > Probably it needs some rebase after Tom committed result status > variables. > > > As it is a style thing, ISTM that the patch is ready if

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Fabien COELHO writes: >> I'll assign this patch to next commitfest > Probably it needs some rebase after Tom committed result status variables. > As it is a style thing, ISTM that the patch is ready if most people agree > that it is better this way and there is no strong

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Finally, as vertical scrolling is mandatory, I would be fine with skipping lines with entries for readability, but it is just a matter of taste and I expect there should be half a dozen different opinions on the matter of formatting. FWIW, +1 to extra lines from me - I find it way more

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-09 1:30 GMT+02:00 Alvaro Herrera : > Tomas Vondra wrote: > > > > Finally, as vertical scrolling is mandatory, I would be fine with > > > skipping lines with entries for readability, but it is just a matter of > > > taste and I expect there should be half a dozen

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Tomas Vondra wrote: > > Finally, as vertical scrolling is mandatory, I would be fine with > > skipping lines with entries for readability, but it is just a matter of > > taste and I expect there should be half a dozen different opinions on > > the matter of formatting. > > FWIW, +1 to extra

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Tomas Vondra wrote: > That's not what I meant. I've never felt a strong urge to avoid wrapping > at 80 chars when translating strings - simply translate in the most > meaningful way, if it gets longer than 80 chars and can't be easily > shortened, just wrap. If there are 60 or 80

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

On 09/09/2017 01:24 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Tomas Vondra writes: >> The translator has exactly the same context in both cases, and the >> struggle to wrap it at 80 characters will be pretty much the same too. > > Really? With the old way, you had something under 60

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hi 2017-09-09 1:24 GMT+02:00 Tom Lane : > Tomas Vondra writes: > > The translator has exactly the same context in both cases, and the > > struggle to wrap it at 80 characters will be pretty much the same too. > > Really? With the old way, you

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Tomas Vondra writes: > The translator has exactly the same context in both cases, and the > struggle to wrap it at 80 characters will be pretty much the same too. Really? With the old way, you had something under 60 characters to work in, now it's nearly 80. I

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hi, On 09/08/2017 07:25 AM, Fabien COELHO wrote: > > Hello, > >>>   PSQL_HISTORY   alternative location for the command history file >>> >>> I would prefer to revert to that more compact 9.6-formatting. >> >> There was a problem with line width .. its hard to respect 80 chars > > Yes. > >

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hello, PSQL_HISTORY alternative location for the command history file I would prefer to revert to that more compact 9.6-formatting. There was a problem with line width .. its hard to respect 80 chars Yes. Scrolling in two dimensions because it does not fit either way is not too

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

2017-09-08 6:36 GMT+02:00 Erik Rijkers : > On 2017-09-08 06:09, Pavel Stehule wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Now the output looks like: >> >> AUTOCOMMIT >> if set, successful SQL commands are automatically committed >> COMP_KEYWORD_CASE >> determines the case used to complete

Re: [HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

On 2017-09-08 06:09, Pavel Stehule wrote: Hi Now the output looks like: AUTOCOMMIT if set, successful SQL commands are automatically committed COMP_KEYWORD_CASE determines the case used to complete SQL key words [lower, upper, preserve-lower, preserve-upper] DBNAME the

[HACKERS] psql: new help related to variables are not too readable

Hi Now the output looks like: AUTOCOMMIT if set, successful SQL commands are automatically committed COMP_KEYWORD_CASE determines the case used to complete SQL key words [lower, upper, preserve-lower, preserve-upper] DBNAME the currently connected database name ECHO